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  • just the facts
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    #261
    Originally posted by pasawayako
    He said it several times that he's one of the greatest.. I'm still waiting for your answer on who's the better IV user. floyd or armstrong?
    Must be Floyd. Everything he did was above board and approved. Not the case with Armstrong.

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      #262
      Originally posted by just the facts
      He is one of the greatest but that's a helluva long way from being named the greatest as you claimed and that makes you a LIAR!
      He put henry armstrong at number 2 and pac achieved more and that means that pac is is somewhere in number 1 or 2.

      Now who's the better iv user. Floyd or armstrong?

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        #263
        Originally posted by just the facts
        Must be Floyd. Everything he did was above board and approved. Not the case with Armstrong.
        Thank you for answering. I agree that floyd is the better IV user which means he mask a much better peds compared to armstrong.

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          #264
          Originally posted by pasawayako
          He put henry armstrong at number 2 and pac achieved more and that means that pac is is somewhere in number 1 or 2.

          Now who's the better iv user. Floyd or armstrong?
          Again, no where in the video you provided does Bert Sugar name Manny Pacquiao the greatest fighter ever and that makes you a LIAR! It also is interesting to keep in mind that this video was made BEFORE the out cold knockout loss to Marquez and the lopsided loss to Mayweather. The Bradley and Horn robberies too.

          I already answered your question, LIAR.

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            #265
            Originally posted by pasawayako
            Thank you for answering. I agree that floyd is the better IV user which means he mask a much better peds compared to armstrong.
            You're conveniently leaving out that everything Mayweather did was above board and with commission approval.

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              #266
              Originally posted by just the facts
              You're conveniently leaving out that everything Mayweather did was above board and with commission approval.
              Yes they approved floyd used of IV(for masking PEDS) that's why i agree with u that he's a much better user of IV than armstrong. If only Armstrong has the same capability to approved his IV used no one would accused him a PED cheater.
              Last edited by pasawayako; 11-15-2020, 03:38 PM.

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                #267
                Originally posted by pasawayako
                Yes they approved floyd used of IV(for masking PEDS) that's why i agree with u that he's a much better user of IV than armstrong. If only Armstrong has the same capability to approved his IV used no one would accused him a PED cheater.
                That's not why they approved the IVs but that's just another LIE on your part but that's what LIARS do. Tell me that story again about how Bert Sugar named Pacquiao the greatest fighter ever, LIAR.

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                  #268
                  Originally posted by i love boxing
                  That would be an amazing achievement and would have to be looked at from a historical standpoint. Has anyone ever unified titles over 40? Has anyone over 40 beat a top p4p ranked boxer?
                  Bernard Hopkins beat Pascal for unified 175lb titles over 40 and then unified the IBF and WBA against Shumenov damn near 50. I can't be sure but any of Pavlik, Pascal, Dawson or Cloud could have been hanging around p4p lists back when Hopkins beat them. He lasted full 12 with Kovalev back when he was a highlighted rated p4p guy.

                  Other than that, not a lot of all time great achievements for a 40+ fighter so Pac would be right up there. However, realistically I don't think he can do it. TC is too big, strong and hits too hard. Pac from 10 years ago? No problem Pac no? impossible.

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                    #269
                    Originally posted by soul_survivor
                    Bernard Hopkins beat Pascal for unified 175lb titles over 40 and then unified the IBF and WBA against Shumenov damn near 50. I can't be sure but any of Pavlik, Pascal, Dawson or Cloud could have been hanging around p4p lists back when Hopkins beat them. He lasted full 12 with Kovalev back when he was a highlighted rated p4p guy.

                    Other than that, not a lot of all time great achievements for a 40+ fighter so Pac would be right up there. However, realistically I don't think he can do it. TC is too big, strong and hits too hard. Pac from 10 years ago? No problem Pac no? impossible.

                    Pac started earlier than bh, and longer as a champ. And in the lighter weights having longer career is more unusual.
                    Pac s achieved at ww things no ww has ever did

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                      #270
                      Originally posted by hugh grant
                      Pac started earlier than bh, and longer as a champ. And in the lighter weights having longer career is more unusual.
                      Pac s achieved at ww things no ww has ever did
                      You're right, I can't remember any ww getting knocked out cold by Marquez and losing badly to Mayweather.

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