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  • Rome-By-Ko
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    #61
    Originally posted by revelated
    Again, I don't care about 'eye test', I'm talking about resume, and drawing power.

    In terms of resume, Horn has Crawford beat.

    In terms of drawing power on home turf, Horn has Crawford beat. Crawford can barely draw in Omaha.

    If Spence fought and knocked out Horn in Australia with Mark Nelson reffing, it's a top level win for Spence, BECAUSE of resume.

    The same cannot be said of Crawford, because his resume is meaningless.

    Crawford now is the same as Indongo was when Crawford beat him: undefeated, a champion, yet fought nobody.

    Skill doesn't mean a damn thing if you don't test it against threats. It just wastes away.
    I can't agree with this, Crawford beat pistol coming off a ko win of Matt's.. He also beat Gamboa solid win..Again no eye test, Crawford was p4p ranked..The fight would be better then Horn..

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    • NORMNEALON
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      #62
      Props to errol for taking this as his comeback fight . Danny is a very solid fighter . He kind of plods and isn't super active and i think those two attributes combined make him look alot worse than he actually is to the eye . Danny is solid and tough as nails with a rock solid chin . I think Spence wins a close UD . If he could stop danny he would make a major statement , i just dont see that happening, especially after the accident . Errol would have to go toe to toe war for that and risk getting that no look hook . I see errol boxing and fighting more like he did vs Mikey with the fight heating up late and danny having some good moments aswell .

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        #63
        Originally posted by Rustyman
        Might agree with you but who has Spence beat. Brook immediately after he got his face broke by Golovkin? Squeaking by Porter? Mikey Garcia a blow up lightweight?
        "At the end of the day", Spence beat named fighters. Threats.

        With Brook, Spence went over the pond and took Porter's IBF belt back that Porter lost. Crawford refused to fight Horn in Australia.

        Mikey "Dare To Be Great" Garcia asked for that fight, then he convinced his fans he was an elite leading up to the fight, only to get shutout at his own game, then struggle with Jesse Vargas. That's on Mikey.

        Then, Spence beat Porter himself and took the WBC title that Porter and Garcia failed to take from Keef in the ring.

        No bro, Spence in terms of levels and achievements at welterweight is far above everyone. You're rewriting history to discredit quality wins after the fact.

        Let's not forget, Crawford has NO signature wins at all.

        Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko
        Crawford called out the two best WW at the time Spence and Thurman..Arum said he would make the fight..Haymon did not want to make it happen..
        Lies. Crawford straight up ducked Porter, ducked Danny by offering damaged Amir Khan more money to take a prime low blow, ducked Manny when he was there, only calls out PBC guys on social media. He wants what he hasn't earned.

        Arum said he wants Crawford to fight Porter. Kenny Porter said "GIMME DA CALL!" because Haymon approved it.

        Crawford, on a LIVE broadcast:

        Last edited by Combat Talk Radio; 07-29-2020, 07:29 AM.

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          #64
          Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko
          I can't agree with this, Crawford beat pistol coming off a ko win of Matt's.. He also beat Gamboa solid win..Again no eye test, Crawford was p4p ranked..The fight would be better then Horn..
          Postol took him the distance because both guys barely threw any punches. And that was 140. Doesn't count.

          Gamboa had an asterisk, weight draining plus Crawford's shaky chin and temper problem was exposed. Regardless that was not at 147.

          You guys are hypocrites. You discredit Floyd's 130 wins and focus only on fights he had at 147, yet Crawford gets a complete pass for doing F all nothing at 147.
          Last edited by Combat Talk Radio; 07-29-2020, 07:32 AM.

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          • MDPopescu
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            #65
            ...a "normal" Spence would easily out-box Danny from the distance...

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            • Rustyman
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              #66
              Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko
              His Porter win was also very credible..
              No one is going to mistake Porter for a P4P fighter and that was a very narrow win.

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              • Rustyman
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                #67
                Originally posted by revelated
                No bro, Spence in terms of levels and achievements at welterweight is far above everyone. You're rewriting history to discredit quality wins after the fact.
                Mikey was never a quality win and EVERYONE said that before the fact.

                Brook fought Golovkin at middleweight, got his face broke, immediately dropped down TWO divisions and fought Spence. I actually rated Brook at the time and think that the name is a good one to have on the resume but the circumstances/conditions around the fight did not make that a great opponent.

                Porter, as I said before, will never be mistaken for a P4P fighter however, is a tough fighter but will never be mistaken for a marque win.

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                • Rustyman
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                  #68
                  Look, I am not saying that Spence is a bad fighter because he is not. He is a good fighter. However, his path for greatness is through Crawford and until he takes that fight and wins that fight, he will never be regarded as a great fighter.

                  Crawford would be his first signature win if he got it.

                  Crawford however is not without blame. He needs to start fighting better opposition and whether that is at/above/below welterweight I do not care. However, his inaction is something that is on him.

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                  • John Locke
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Rustyman
                    Look, I am not saying that Spence is a bad fighter because he is not. He is a good fighter. However, his path for greatness is through Crawford and until he takes that fight and wins that fight, he will never be regarded as a great fighter.

                    Crawford would be his first signature win if he got it.

                    Crawford however is not without blame. He needs to start fighting better opposition and whether that is at/above/below welterweight I do not care. However, his inaction is something that is on him.
                    No, he wouldn't. Who has Crawford beat man? Danny Garcia is more proven than Crawford, so is Shawn Porter obviously. Crawford is a quality fighter but right now he's overrated because he hasn't beat any A level fighters.

                    He's closing in on 40 fights and is coming towards the end of his physical prime at 32 and we're yet to see him in there with somebody on his level, and believe me, guys like Pacman, Thurman, Porter, Spence, Garcia are on his level or above, so lets see him test himself for once.

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                      #70
                      danny is slow as shiiet tho!

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