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  • Combat Talk Radio
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    #51
    Originally posted by Rustyman
    Until Spence beats Crawford he's not no.1. Same applies to Crawford.

    No one in the welterweight division can be pound for pound no 1 until everyone fights.
    Crawford is not a gate. I will again quote the late great Black Mamba, Roger Mayweather:

    "who'd you beat, and who did that guy beat?"

    Normally I would agree with your point, except that Crawford has no notable welterweight wins. Spence beating him is equivalent to Spence beating Jeff Horn because that's all Crawford has.

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    • Rome-By-Ko
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      #52
      Very good match up can't wait for this one..I think this going to be better then some might think..

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        #53
        Originally posted by revelated
        Crawford is not a gate. I will again quote the late great Black Mamba, Roger Mayweather:

        "who'd you beat, and who did that guy beat?"

        Normally I would agree with your point, except that Crawford has no notable welterweight wins. Spence beating him is equivalent to Spence beating Jeff Horn because that's all Crawford has.
        While I'll agree Crawford did not beat a great WW opponent..Saying beating him would be like beating Jeff Horn is just silly..Crawford at one point was consider the worst 3rd best boxer in the world..Any WW should be jumping to fight him as he should be jumping to fight Spence Garcia Thurman Porter..

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        • Rustyman
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          #54
          Originally posted by revelated
          Crawford is not a gate. I will again quote the late great Black Mamba, Roger Mayweather:

          "who'd you beat, and who did that guy beat?"

          Normally I would agree with your point, except that Crawford has no notable welterweight wins. Spence beating him is equivalent to Spence beating Jeff Horn because that's all Crawford has.
          Might agree with you but who has Spence beat. Brook immediately after he got his face broke by Golovkin? Squeaking by Porter? Mikey Garcia a blow up lightweight?
          Last edited by Rustyman; 07-29-2020, 07:02 AM.

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            #55
            Originally posted by revelated
            The point is, we need to stop blaming Arum for Crawford's inactions. That's on Crawford not wanting to fight the best.
            Crawford called out the two best WW at the time Spence and Thurman..Arum said he would make the fight..Haymon did not want to make it happen..Choosing Garcia for Spence and Pac for Thurman..I do not hold this against either of them,both those fights made sense..

            Even Spence fighting Garcia now makes sense.. Thurman should be eyeing Crawford right now imo tho..

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              #56
              Originally posted by Rustyman
              Might agree with you but who has Spence beat. Brook immediately after he got his face broke?
              His Porter win was also very credible..

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                #57
                I think Spence should do just fine. I don't expect him to be as reckless as he was in the Porter fight and try to knock Danny out. I expect Errol to simply out box Garcia with jabs, feints and body punching.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko
                  While I'll agree Crawford did not beat a great WW opponent..Saying beating him would be like beating Jeff Horn is just silly..Crawford at one point was consider the worst 3rd best boxer in the world..Any WW should be jumping to fight him as he should be jumping to fight Spence Garcia Thurman Porter..
                  Again, I don't care about 'eye test', I'm talking about resume, and drawing power.

                  In terms of resume, Horn has Crawford beat.

                  In terms of drawing power on home turf, Horn has Crawford beat. Crawford can barely draw in Omaha.

                  If Spence fought and knocked out Horn in Australia with Mark Nelson reffing, it's a top level win for Spence, BECAUSE of resume.

                  The same cannot be said of Crawford, because his resume is meaningless.

                  Crawford now is the same as Indongo was when Crawford beat him: undefeated, a champion, yet fought nobody.

                  Skill doesn't mean a damn thing if you don't test it against threats. It just wastes away.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by DaBeastO
                    FALSE! arum and gaymon made fury vs wilder 2 together and before that Pacquiao vs gayweather jr as well. crawford will get his hands on those pbc welterweights as soon as they run out of in house fights. spence admitted to pbc freezing out crawford they won't fight him until they have to the funny thing is crawford might end up getting a Pacquiao fight before they do LOL.

                    Ok, Fury vs Wilder 2...What else?? Give me some more examples i'll wait. LOL Floyd Pac was 5 years ago and it took 5 years to make.

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                      #60
                      Looking forward too it. Let’s see if a damaged Spence can beat Garcia. It’s a pretty even fight in my book.

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