Who is the best to never have won a world title

[Earl-Hickey]

Luis "the boogeyman" Ortiz

He'd have reigned in any era he was just unlucky to meet wilder

[Larry the boss]

For being a boogeyman, Lucas Matthysse never won a title.

He had the WBA regular title..so he did have a world title..it seems to count for others

[VatoMulatto]

There is only one right answer.

Ali Raymi.

The legend....Ali "No blueprint" Raymi.

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[champion4ever]

Oba Carr was a good fighter and very fun to watch with a crowd pleasing style. What hurt him was his lack of punching power among the elite titleholders of the welterweight division.

[Bunch Pag]

Good question I think Oba Carr is right up there.
Really good fighter but his title shots came against Oscar, Quartey and Trinidad all undefeated and at their peak.

Good call, I actually forgot about that kid..

[QueensburyRules]

Who is it?

- -Myself, obviously.

Why U ask?

[Rockybigblower]

[tophat1]

Hero Graham deserves a mention.

Highly unlucky with the level of opposition in his title fights. Faced brewer when he was well last it but his 2 other shots came against Julian Jackson and mike mccallum.

[hugh grant]

Herol graham

[Marchegiano]

Langford always gets the nod because no one has as many minor titles.


I forget who said it and don't want to go back through, the poster made a good point about knowing who all didn't get a shot and how difficult that would be. Let me counter by saying if anyone else was a 5X colored, Mexican, Canadian, and NSC champion you'd know his name as well.



That said, there are others who deserve some nods

Panama Joe Gans was a great Colored MW champion who was ducked by Greb and beat the man who would beat Greb for his title. Probably one of the best to never.


Ken Norton didn't really win his title, so, kinda him unless I've my history wrong, maybe an olden will speak to it. Anyway, Kenny fought an elim, the champ was Spinks who fought Ali instead of Ken, Ken got handed the WBC just to drop it to Larry. Did not win a title fight, ever.

BUI Middle and Heavyweight champion Peter Maher defeated Steven O'Donnell in a fight scheduled for and promoted as the vacant title fight left by Corbett, Maher won and was called champion for several months until he fought Fitzsimmons and got KO'd by the solar plexus punch. Fitzsimmons then got cheated by Wyatt Earp and Tom Sharkey, Sharkey got stripped by Corbett and Fitzs got to fight Corbett for the title. Making Peter Maher no longer, in modern times, considered a champion. Peter beat guys like Godfrey, Guhlin, Klon***e, Choyinski, Goddard etc. Great resume for the era.


George Godfrey was probably the best HW of the 30s. Held back by the colorline and forced to work plenty of fixed fights, Godfrey gave Primo as ass whooping and DQ'd himself out. He battered the likes of Wills and Gains for the colored and won the IBU championship when Baer was stripped for refusing his mando by fighting that mando in a vacant. Like Sam and Peter, no one recognizes that title run.


Botha is a HW we should all know. He did well and his career spans decades; got himself in title contention by the mid 90s and stayed there until the mid 2000s. In 1995 the IBF stripped Foreman and set up a vacant fight with Schulz. Both won, was given his title, then popped dirty and was stripped and his victory turned to an NC so he, like Maher, was never champion even though he won that ****.





Damn, I turned this from who deserves to who got close. My bad, they're similar so I'll just post it.