Who ranks higher on the ATG list, Tyson or RJJ?

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  • IronDanHamza
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    #11
    Roy Jones obviously.

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      #12
      Roy Jones was arguably the best ever boxer in his prime, so Roy.

      I'd pick a few HW's over a prime Tyson, I wouldn't pick anyone over a prime RJJ
      Last edited by removed; 07-25-2020, 02:55 PM.

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      • Larry the boss
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        #13
        Roy, and its not even close

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        • ironmike2012
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          #14
          Originally posted by famicommander
          So?

          He still got beat by every top level fighter he faced after 1989.
          He beat Rudduck twice, while Holyfield ducked Razor at the same time to fight old Holmes and Foreman , plus Mike was never the same after Rooney or Prison.


          Everyone forgets Roy cherry picking, he fought Vinny Paz at 168 (paz a 135 champ) the same guy who broke his neck a few years before, when he could have fought better competition like he did after Tarver KO'd him.
          Last edited by ironmike2012; 07-25-2020, 03:22 PM.

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          • VirusTI
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            #15
            Roy, this is not close at all.

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            • redmish
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              #16
              Roy easily. Tyson brought excitement back to the sport but Roy Jones was incredible, a once in a generation talent.

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                #17
                RJJ but who cares right now? Zero impact or relevance on their next fight.

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                • QballLobo
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                  That’s a tough one.
                  Roy Jones Jr. is probably the best P4P fighter I’ve ever seen live. Unfortunately he never had a true rival in his prime (not his fault) to bring out the best in him. After going to HW then back down he wasn’t the same guy and the later half of his career is embarrassing for someone of his pedigree.
                  Tyson had a shorter prime but man what an impact. Before jail he was on the international fame level of Jordan and Micheal Jackson. Still a mainstream star. And being undisputed heavyweight champion in that era meant so much more than today. Prize fighting was a major sport vs the niche following it has now.
                  Close but I’ll give the edge to Tyson based on impact and legacy.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by QballLobo
                    That’s a tough one.
                    Roy Jones Jr. is probably the best P4P fighter I’ve ever seen live. Unfortunately he never had a true rival in his prime (not his fault) to bring out the best in him. After going to HW then back down he wasn’t the same guy and the later half of his career is embarrassing for someone of his pedigree.
                    Tyson had a shorter prime but man what an impact. Before jail he was on the international fame level of Jordan and Micheal Jackson. Still a mainstream star. And being undisputed heavyweight champion in that era meant so much more than today. Prize fighting was a major sport vs the niche following it has now.
                    Close but I’ll give the edge to Tyson based on impact and legacy.
                    This idea that you "need" a "rival" is really ******.

                    Ridiculous. Nonsensical.

                    It's far more impressive to dominate everyone you face than to "struggle" or have a "close" fight with a "name".

                    Furthermore, a name doesnt equal elite. It just means popular.

                    Seriously the ******ity and rationale that you want to rate a fighter higher because he was in a closer fight with someone elite (subjective in and of itself), as opposed to steamrolling people, whether by KO or decision, is laughable.

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                    • Rip Chudd
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by redmish
                      Roy easily. Tyson brought excitement back to the sport but Roy Jones was incredible, a once in a generation talent.
                      What this guy said

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