Comments Thread For: Joshua Explains Why He Doesn't View Tyson Fury as Intimidating

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When has fury been into the deep end other than wilder first fight ? He has only taken on two opponents we can give him any credit for?

Erm, when he had to grind out a decision against Wallin fighting with one of the worst cuts I’ve ever seen?

When he was dropped and was getting completely outboxed on his American debut?

Or going to Germany to fight Wlad when your previous best opponent was Derek Chisora?

Or after getting flattened in the 12 round and seeing the biggest puncher ever stalking around the ring waiting to finish you off?

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Erm, when he had to grind out a decision against Wallin fighting with one of the worst cuts I’ve ever seen?

When he was dropped and was getting completely outboxed on his American debut?

Or going to Germany to fight Wlad when your previous best opponent was Derek Chisora?

Or after getting flattened in the 12 round and seeing the biggest puncher ever stalking around the ring waiting to finish you off?

Two fighters he has fought are Wladimir and wilder. The klitschko fight wasn’t really a warfare at all and he he never got into a deep position; it always looked like going for points.

The likes of Wallin I don’t consider deep water , because it’s a completely different thing being on the back foot to someone who is a d level fighter. If you had someone like Joshua or Whyte who knocked your eye into the same state then your gonna find a more tougher job recovering from that (and to be honest the ref would’ve stopped it if the opponent was any good)

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Two fighters he has fought are Wladimir and wilder. The klitschko fight wasn’t really a warfare at all and he he never got into a deep position; it always looked like going for points.

The likes of Wallin I don’t consider deep water , because it’s a completely different thing being on the back foot to someone who is a d level fighter. If you had someone like Joshua or Whyte who knocked your eye into the same state then your gonna find a more tougher job recovering from that (and to be honest the ref would’ve stopped it if the opponent was any good)

If this isn’t being in deep water, I don’t know what is.



You clearly don’t understand what it means.

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If this isn’t being in deep water, I don’t know what is.



You clearly don’t understand what it means.

What you really mean is - “if I can’t include a fight against the mighty wallin then fury has a cv which is exposed for what it really is...”

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What you really mean is - “if I can’t include a fight against the mighty wallin then fury has a cv which is exposed for what it really is...”

We don’t know how good Wallin is, he was unbeaten before losing to the best HW of this era.

Everyone said Chisora was shot when Fury beat him, then he went on to beat Whyte and is still headlining PPVs now. And Wlad, they said he was shot, then he gave AJ the fight of his life lol.

Fury’s wins over champions Wlad & Wilder automatically gives him the best cv in the division. Fury has been in fights as the underdog going back to the first Chisora fight, when has say, AJ or Whyte been in a fight that they weren’t expected to win?

Anyway it doesn’t matter who the opponent is, deep water is deep water.

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We don’t know how good Wallin is, he was unbeaten before losing to the best HW of this era.

Everyone said Chisora was shot when Fury beat him, then he went on to beat Whyte and is still headlining PPVs now. And Wlad, they said he was shot, then he gave AJ the fight of his life lol.

Fury’s wins over champions Wlad & Wilder automatically gives him the best cv in the division. Fury has been in fights as the underdog going back to the first Chisora fight, when has say, AJ or Whyte been in a fight that they weren’t expected to win?

Anyway it doesn’t matter who the opponent is, deep water is deep water.

AJ was 50/50 with Klitschko and Ruiz 2 but otherwise has been clearer favourite and obviously for good reason.

I’ve not heard people say chisora was shot at all - and people could clearly see Klitschko was fully fit against AJ; many felt he was better prepared then against Fury - that’s down to opinion but he certainly wasn’t shot in either fight.

But let’s get it’s right. Wilder and Klitschko are credible opponents, Chisora is very much a gatekeeper at bottom end of top20 - albeit he has been improving with age (well after Fury fights).

Wallin is well beneath that level. He may have been unbeaten but that’s based on his opponents, I mean he took to points the likes of mrazek and zsalek - I’ll save you the research and tell you they have over 80 losses between them and the majority by KO. He has upped his name and rightly will get an extra payday or two now but nobody seriously expects him to beat a decent fighter.

AJ and Whyte have both taken on far more credible opponents on a consistent basis and their CV’s are quite clear to see.

Is Fury the best? Maybe? He certainly is for some people, a lot being wilder or ex wilder fans. For me, and many others - he still needs to prove himself by taking on other opponents.

Parker, Whyte, Joshua, ortiz, Ruiz, Povetkin - any of these matchups can enhance his record significantly.

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AJ was 50/50 with Klitschko and Ruiz 2 but otherwise has been clearer favourite and obviously for good reason.

I’ve not heard people say chisora was shot at all - and people could clearly see Klitschko was fully fit against AJ; many felt he was better prepared then against Fury - that’s down to opinion but he certainly wasn’t shot in either fight.

But let’s get it’s right. Wilder and Klitschko are credible opponents, Chisora is very much a gatekeeper at bottom end of top20 - albeit he has been improving with age (well after Fury fights).

Wallin is well beneath that level. He may have been unbeaten but that’s based on his opponents, I mean he took to points the likes of mrazek and zsalek - I’ll save you the research and tell you they have over 80 losses between them and the majority by KO. He has upped his name and rightly will get an extra payday or two now but nobody seriously expects him to beat a decent fighter.

AJ and Whyte have both taken on far more credible opponents on a consistent basis and their CV’s are quite clear to see.

Is Fury the best? Maybe? He certainly is for some people, a lot being wilder or ex wilder fans. For me, and many others - he still needs to prove himself by taking on other opponents.

Parker, Whyte, Joshua, ortiz, Ruiz, Povetkin - any of these matchups can enhance his record significantly.

There's no maybe, Fury is ranked #1 by every boxing publication in the world, and he would comfortably beat any of the names on AJ/Whytes resume. I don't see how beating old men like Povetkin & Ortiz & chubsters like Ruiz really adds much to a legacy.

Wilder on the other hand, would knock them both spark out, unless Fury has completely ruined him.

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There's no maybe, Fury is ranked #1 by every boxing publication in the world, and he would comfortably beat any of the names on AJ/Whytes resume. I don't see how beating old men like Povetkin & Ortiz & chubsters like Ruiz really adds much to a legacy.

Wilder on the other hand, would knock them both spark out, unless Fury has completely ruined him.

As it stands Fury is no where near a hall of fame sort of status. His real claim to fame their is his personal story as opposed to his actual fights - 2 wins and a draw doesn’t make you a hall of famer.

You may make Fury #1 and as I said - others do too - but it certainly isn’t the case for all. It certainly wouldn’t be a comfortable win against AJ or Whyte either as you suggest. The Betting odds will tell you as much for that story.

Fury has been knocked down, not just in training, but in match ups by some real inferior opponents - he isn’t the elusive masterclass he is built up to be. I missed Usyk off the list above, but that’s another opponent which I would add to the list (for any of the top guys , not just Fury).

Povetkin, Ruiz and Ortiz all are in the gap between the top end the Chisora’s where Fury currently has his match-ups. Povetkin is getting older and if Whyte were to beat him then maybe that will be it for him- but as it stands today all three would enhance his career ; as they would do Whyte’s, Joshua and wilder (albeit AJ and wilder have fought some already)

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Fury isn't intimidating at all -

Don't go out of your way and find a 20 mile path to your dressing room
Then, put on a 40 lb, heat capturing costume
Then, bend at the waist allowing the slob to lean all of his body weight down on you
Then, be unfortunate enough to have a numbskull ref running things....

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As it stands Fury is no where near a hall of fame sort of status. His real claim to fame their is his personal story as opposed to his actual fights - 2 wins and a draw doesn’t make you a hall of famer.

You may make Fury #1 and as I said - others do too - but it certainly isn’t the case for all. It certainly wouldn’t be a comfortable win against AJ or Whyte either as you suggest. The Betting odds will tell you as much for that story.

Fury has been knocked down, not just in training, but in match ups by some real inferior opponents - he isn’t the elusive masterclass he is built up to be. I missed Usyk off the list above, but that’s another opponent which I would add to the list (for any of the top guys , not just Fury).

Povetkin, Ruiz and Ortiz all are in the gap between the top end the Chisora’s where Fury currently has his match-ups. Povetkin is getting older and if Whyte were to beat him then maybe that will be it for him- but as it stands today all three would enhance his career ; as they would do Whyte’s, Joshua and wilder (albeit AJ and wilder have fought some already)

Fury is already the greatest HW of this era and will cement his legacy when he destroys AJ. Povetkin, Ruiz & Ortiz are old men/fat and not really worth bothering with, Fury would be a massive favourite against all of them.

He's in the HOF right now and could potentially rule the division for the next 10 years. He'll destroy AJ & Whyte and then hopefully fight the winner of Dubois/Joyce.