Pac's Career Put Into Perspective

[Elotero]

lol, it has to be hate if you went out of your way to do that.

How about, nobody gives a f**k about Manny's putting bricks in his pockets to increase his weight on the scales fights.

Manny vs so many legends is what we're looking at and the way he demolished them. There is no dis*****g that. You can talk, I can watch videos.

Mostly at the end of their rope, coming off losses and with weight stipulations. OP is right and has perfect timing, the ****ing 48ers here have all gone and the ones remaining are unable to continue to try to rewrite history. They legit tried to say he was the greatest fighter ever, lmao.

[boogbx]

When I asked why I should be impressed, I was expecting you to give me some quality names, not just fleeting moments in time.

Like I said, Andy Ruiz was a champ.....does that make him great ?

To have wins over Marquez, Morales and Barrera alone make you a great fighter. That a flyweight did it no less is nothing short of spectacular.

The 2 fighters I Mentioned The Thai fighter and the Aussie were really good fighters that went on to become world champions again after losing to Pac.

Pac disposed of both fighters and is still fighting at a elite level today against the best at 147.

I’ll go on record and say Pacquiao is the best welter at the moment until Somebody beats him.

I’ll put him over Spence, Crawford, Porter, Garcia, Ugas and that’s a testament to how great Pac is.

[BodyBagz]

To have wins over Marquez, Morales and Barrera alone make you a great fighter. That a flyweight did it no less is nothing short of spectacular.

The 2 fighters I Mentioned The Thai fighter and the Aussie were really good fighters that went on to become world champions again after losing to Pac.

Pac disposed of both fighters and is still fighting at a elite level today against the best at 147.

I’ll go on record and say Pacquiao is the best welter at the moment until Somebody beats him.

I’ll put him over Spence, Crawford, Porter, Garcia, Ugas and that’s a testament to how great Pac is.

I meant, what were Sataskul and Hussein best wins

I will get to Pac's 2nd segment soon.

[aboutfkntime]

To have wins over Marquez, Morales and Barrera alone make you a great fighter. That a flyweight did it no less is nothing short of spectacular.

The 2 fighters I Mentioned The Thai fighter and the Aussie were really good fighters that went on to become world champions again after losing to Pac.

Pac disposed of both fighters and is still fighting at a elite level today against the best at 147...

Pac is great for his achievements below 135, especially if you factor in the Mayweather fight... the rest is smoke-n-mirrors, which is why a lot of insiders refer to Pacquiao as overrated

imho the Mayweather performance answered some genuine questions over the legitimacy of Pac's position at welter... because most of his previous fights raised more questions than answers

... I’ll go on record and say Pacquiao is the best welter at the moment until Somebody beats him.

I’ll put him over Spence, Crawford, Porter, Garcia, Ugas and that’s a testament to how great Pac is.

no, that statement is a testament to how much you love him

Pac is not the best welter

I would favor Crawford Spence and Porter over Manny at this point

like most fans, you are overrating the Thurman win... remember what happened to Pac when he got in there with Horn, and then replace Horn with Porter... who is better than Horn in every department

and most opponents seem to hit Pac with their best shot at some point, so he would need to be damn careful with that hook from Danny Garcia or he could get Marquez'd

[boogbx]

I meant, what were Sataskul and Hussein best wins

I will get to Pac's 2nd segment soon.

Sataskul was a world champ
But unfortunately you don’t value that. To be recognized as a world Champion in boxing is everything, especially in boxing at the lower weights.

When you’ve actually boxed, you realize How truly special that is. Have you ever boxed brother just curious?

As for Nedal Hussein, I
Remember his fight with Oscar Larios another really good
Fighter that Pacquiao beat. Pac beat both and both are really good Fighters. Check out Larios vs Vasquez 12rd ko. Great fight.

[boogbx]

Pac is great for his achievements below 135, especially if you factor in the Mayweather fight... the rest is smoke-n-mirrors, which is why a lot of insiders refer to Pacquiao as overrated

imho the Mayweather performance answered some genuine questions over the legitimacy of Pac's position at welter... because most of his previous fights raised more questions than answers








no, that statement is a testament to how much you love him

Pac is not the best welter

I would favor Crawford Spence and Porter over Manny at this point

like most fans, you are overrating the Thurman win... remember what happened to Pac when he got in there with Horn, and then replace Horn with Porter... who is better than Horn in every department

and most opponents seem to hit Pac with their best shot at some point, so he would need to be damn careful with that hook from Danny Garcia or he could get Marquez'd

I get your argument but in this instance To me the Insiders are just wrong!

The man was a flyweight!! To me it really is that simple
Since the smoke and mirrors Arguments just reminds me of The Roy Jones didn’t fight Darius Michelweski. Haters will reach for anything to validate an argument, but it’s still
Wrong.

As for my love for Pacquiao, I’m
Basing my opinion on his last performance. His destruction of Thurman to me is the most dominant welterweight performance to date.

As for Crawford, I still remember the fighter given all he could handle by Gamboa, I’m not Sold On him because he has fought Nobody.

Spence is coming off that near life ending injury and Garcia is so limited it’s laughable.

I do respect your view
On Porter but Pacquiao
Soundly beat Horn, even though he didn’t get the decision. What’s next you gonna argue Tim Bradley? Nobody on earth other than the judges saw Bradley win Any fight against Pacquiao.

I still can’t fathom defending Pacquiao and being called his
Lover. Just a unbiased neutral
Fan. Game recognize game and Pacquiao is great, no
Smoke n mirrors.

[Zaroku]

I like PAC, but it’s his fanatic fans that annoy me, just like Floyd’s, Connor McGregor and others Canelo fans are extreme too!

[aboutfkntime]

I get your argument but in this instance To me the Insiders are just wrong!

The man was a flyweight!! To me it really is that simple
Since the smoke and mirrors Arguments just reminds me of The Roy Jones didn’t fight Darius Michelweski. Haters will reach for anything to validate an argument, but it’s still
Wrong.

As for my love for Pacquiao, I’m
Basing my opinion on his last performance. His destruction of Thurman to me is the most dominant welterweight performance to date.

As for Crawford, I still remember the fighter given all he could handle by Gamboa, I’m not Sold On him because he has fought Nobody.

Spence is coming off that near life ending injury and Garcia is so limited it’s laughable.

I do respect your view
On Porter but Pacquiao
Soundly beat Horn, even though he didn’t get the decision. What’s next you gonna argue Tim Bradley? Nobody on earth other than the judges saw Bradley win Any fight against Pacquiao.

I still can’t fathom defending Pacquiao and being called his
Lover. Just a unbiased neutral
Fan. Game recognize game and Pacquiao is great, no
Smoke n mirrors.

but, nothing like that happened... the Mayweather/Pac fight was wider, did Mayweather "destroy" Pacquiao?

Horn ragdolled Pac, Porter would give him all sorts of grief... I cannot see Pac dealing with that pressure at this point

like I noticed from your other post, you are badly overrating the Thurman win... I have never rated Thurman that highly, and he has not looked the same fighter since returning from injury/inactivity

[boogbx]

but, nothing like that happened... the Mayweather/Pac fight was wider, did Mayweather "destroy" Pacquiao?

Horn ragdolled Pac, Porter would give him all sorts of grief... I cannot see Pac dealing with that pressure at this point

like I noticed from your other post, you are badly overrating the Thurman win... I have never rated Thurman that highly, and he has not looked the same fighter since returning from injury/inactivity

Thurman beat both Porter and Garcia. I agree he hadn’t looked the same in the Josesito fight, Pac clearly beat Thurman.

The Mayweather-Pac fight was much closer and I had thousands on Mayweather when they fought so I’m as unbiased as can be in that fight.

I’m also a Mayweather supporter and understand that what he did with fragile hands is beyond amazing. He ain’t in my top 15 all time but he’s definitely a great fighter.

Pacquiao didn’t do all that bad there.

We just have to agree to disagree. Pacquiao soundly beat the guy that beat Porter and Garcia. I’ll stick as closely to facts as I can. I’d favor Pac over Porter and Garcia.

We haven’t seen Spence since the injury so that’s why as of right now, to me Pac is #1 at 147. At his age, in a stacked division that’s very impressive.

[aboutfkntime]

Thurman beat both Porter and Garcia.

he squeaked past Porter and Garcia, who were not the top welters

Shawn Porter is right on top of his game at this point, I would definitely favor him over Thurman in a rematch

I agree he hadn’t looked the same in the Josesito fight, Pac clearly beat Thurman.

you used the word " destroyed "... but that did not happen

The Mayweather-Pac fight was much closer and I had thousands on Mayweather when they fought so I’m as unbiased as can be in that fight.

no, it was not... the Pac/Thurman fight was closer

Mayweather CLEARLY beat Pacquiao

I’m also a Mayweather supporter and understand that what he did with fragile hands is beyond amazing. He ain’t in my top 15 all time but he’s definitely a great fighter.

Pacquiao didn’t do all that bad there.

We just have to agree to disagree. Pacquiao soundly beat the guy that beat Porter and Garcia. I’ll stick as closely to facts as I can. I’d favor Pac over Porter and Garcia.

We haven’t seen Spence since the injury so that’s why as of right now, to me Pac is #1 at 147. At his age, in a stacked division that’s very impressive.

I give Pac little/no chance to beat Crawford, a small chance to beat Spence/Porter maybe 65/35, and I would slightly favor him over Danny Garcia because I'm not sure how well he times that hook on southpaws

another problem is this... and no, I am not pulling the PED card out of frustration... because of Pac's history, I find it very strange that there was no testing for the Thurman fight...

breadman edwards is automatically su****ious of any top fighter who does not sign for WADA testing... it is very strange there was no testing for that fight

are the 2010-2015 smoke-n-mirrors resurfacing... ?