Carl Froch always slandering Joe Calzaghe and Andre Ward, but he ain't in their class

[DreamFighter]

out of the three, the one who can claim is above them with clarity is Ward, who outdid them both emphatically.

regarding joe and carl, I guess joe avoiding facing Carl means something but its not conclusive. Once Carl beat Kessler he was at least on par with Joe, though his resume is a lot deeper than joes. SO es probably ahead all things considered.

Joe was good, but he only has himself to blame for not proving it like the others did. He had the opportunities handed to him to prove he was better than froch, by facing him, or by facing uninjured kessler in a rematch in denmark, but he ran from both opportunities. So the questions remain, not so with the others.

[Thraxox]

https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/7...ig-carl-froch/

LMAO. WARD owned TF out of Froch on that panel

[deathofaclown]

out of the three, the one who can claim is above them with clarity is Ward, who outdid them both emphatically.

regarding joe and carl, I guess joe avoiding facing Carl means something but its not conclusive. Once Carl beat Kessler he was at least on par with Joe, though his resume is a lot deeper than joes. SO es probably ahead all things considered.

Joe was good, but he only has himself to blame for not proving it like the others did. He had the opportunities handed to him to prove he was better than froch, by facing him, or by facing uninjured kessler in a rematch in denmark, but he ran from both opportunities. So the questions remain, not so with the others.

Joe avoiding Carl is one of the biggest myths in boxing

Carl Froch was still fighting in the British title fights at domestic level when Joe had cleaned out and moved up a division. Froch never fought in at world level fight until Joe had retired. Froch’s first world level fight was for Joes vacant title that he about a year earlier before moving up. I think Joe had retired a few weeks before that fight and been out of the 168 division for a year.

Their careers barely crossed paths.

the best comparison would be Usyk moving up to heavyweight and people saying he ducked Lawrence Okolie. That’s exactly the stages of their careers both were at.

I’m sure Carl was high in the rankings and would’ve become a mandatory at some point but that doesn’t mean he was ducked because the reality is they were at completely different stages of their career and not even in the same division by the time Froch got to fight at world level.

[-Kev-]

Froch, despite losses, had a better career and has more fans than Calzaghe.

Calzaghe’s 0 will be picked apart as the decades go by and he will be reduced to just a guy with a couple of good wins who could have been better.

He refused to take risks outside of Kessler and Bika. He also “beat” Hopkins while barely landing clean punches on him.

He also ducked fighters who called him out that honestly, he probably would have beaten. Froch, Dawson, Glen Johnson. Those 3 publicly called him out and he ducked them all in favor of Jones. And he only fought Hopkins because of his age, he thought it would be easy. After the fight though, he ducked a rematch, he saw the old man still had something in the tank especially after seeing him upset Pavlik.

Froch will go down as someone who fought all the major players around his division. Calzaghe went down safely with his 0 while not really proving how good he is. And imo, he was VERY good. I am upset he didn’t add more names to his resume though. I won’t sit here and make believe I was not a Calzaghe fan, I was and I actually put some friends on to him around 2005-2007. His career/resume was just so underwhelming.

[boliodogs]

Agree or disagree?

Joe Calzaghe and Andre Ward @ 168 would be a mythical super fight. Carl Froch meanwhile is a crude slugger, a real blood and guts, gritty, huff and puffer. He just does not have the boxing brain and skillset to ever, in 100 attempts, come close to matching Calzaghe or Ward.

Is there anyone here who thinks otherwise? I could do with a laugh.

Ward beat him by a good amount and i think Calzaghe would beat Ward and Froch. Joe had fast hands, a high punch rate per round and great boxing skill on offense and defense.

[Marchegiano]

Love to for ya bud, but, it'd be inauthentic. I'm a Ward/Joe fan....Joe is underrated even.

[*TonyMontana*]

I remember fighting Carl Froch in the final of the Super Six.

“The first two or three punches he threw, I was shocked. I had to adjust to how slow he was.

That is a savage comment hahaha

[Boxxymcboxface]

Agreed. Froch is a great warrior but skill wise, he is nowhere near being on the level of an Andre Ward or a Joe Calzaghe.

[*TonyMontana*]

I personally believe froch would have bust calzaghe up

Calzaghe was a good fighter but he was not unbeatable and his record is terrible

Byron almost knocked him out
Eubank was finished like 2 years before calzaghe fought him
Lacy was one of the biggest hype jobs in the whole history of boxing
Roy was done years before he fought him
If you score the Hopkins fight theres no way you end up with calzaghe winning

Robin reid showed Joe's level


Kessler was a good win but that's it

[Kaspa9t9]

I personally believe froch would have bust calzaghe up

Calzaghe was a good fighter but he was not unbeatable and his record is terrible

Byron almost knocked him out
Eubank was finished like 2 years before calzaghe fought him
Lacy was one of the biggest hype jobs in the whole history of boxing
Roy was done years before he fought him
If you score the Hopkins fight theres no way you end up with calzaghe winning

Robin reid showed Joe's level


Kessler was a good win but that's it

Agreed, Calzaghe's only decent win was Kessler imo. Froch fought world class competition for years on end and came out the other side with a decent amount of wins.

I think Froch would beat Calzaghe.