What if SRR never gave LaMotta rematches and said “that was easy work.”

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  • Thuglife Nelo
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    #41
    Originally posted by Larry_Rushmore
    say what you want about Floyd but he gave his toughest opponents rematches, and that is something I can not say about Canelo man..I think he is a great boxer and improves all the time but he did not rematch Trout or Lara,Floyds gets it right the 1st time and doesnt need rematches but if you play him close he gives you a second run.

    You are literally on here saying Floyd should have moved up at damn near 40 and fought 2 people he already beat again, seems like you are just mad he retired with out losing.
    Floyd gets it right? How come Floyd didn’t fight prime Undefeated Thurman? Al under Haymon. He chose Berto instead...while marketing to beat Marciano’s record...Why didn’t Floyd fight Lara or other 154lbrs when he held the WBC and WBA simultaneously? Strange mandos innit. Step asides... but ure asking Canelo to fight Lara again? Lara ain’t Maidana...

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    • Larry the boss
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      #42
      Originally posted by Mexican Bidness
      Why didn’t Floyd fight Lara or other 154lbs while holding the WBC and WBA simultaneously for a hot minute?
      154 was his 5th division and he was in his late 30's...that is like asking why Canelo now is not fighting the other 175 boxers while he is prime

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        #43
        Originally posted by Mexican Bidness
        Floyd gets it right? How come Floyd didn’t fight prime Undefeated Thurman? Al under Haymon. He chose Berto instead...while marketing to beat Marciano’s record...Why didn’t Floyd fight Lara or other 154lbrs when he held the WBC and WBA simultaneously? Strange mandos innit. Step asides... but ure asking Canelo to fight Lara again? Lara ain’t Maidana...
        How old was Floyd when he held those titles?? you are asking a lot from a 37-38 year old man while trying to excuse a guy in his prime. I dont get the point of this thread, Canelo had his shot and lost to a 36 year old

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        • Thuglife Nelo
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          #44
          Originally posted by Larry_Rushmore
          154 was his 5th division and he was in his late 30's...that is like asking why Canelo now is not fighting the other 175 boxers while he is prime
          Lol. No. You know I’ve always said 1lb for Cotto’s Lineal Middleweight title. You are always defending Floyd to say “he’s 37.. he already moved up” blah blah. Dude cool yo bid... we’d talking 1lb up in this hoe. We know why. Cause Cotto was slimmer against Floyd at 154. When Cotto fought Geale to Canelo he was more filled. Floyd was getting tagged by Cotto’s random jabs playing rope a dope... u think Floyd would have more success carrying more weight or would he still hit the scale light as SRR did against Jake?’ SRR eventually added weight in their series too. Point is those rematches happen. SRR is a bigger name than Mayweather. Dem is questions mayne! If Canelo was able to rock Floyd off his fight at 152, what would’ve been the minimum weight for Canelo’s Middleweight title? 155?! Floyd is a bullshetter about “Easy work.” You dont Ditch another weight class by a 1lb. Not even Pacquiao is that ******... lol

          And why do you always bring up age with Floyd? Wasn’t Bhop 36 when he beat Trinidad? He was 41 when he beat Tarverz. How old was Foreman when beat Moorer. Why do you always give Floyd a pass when he claims he’s the “best ever?”

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            #45
            Originally posted by Larry_Rushmore
            How old was Floyd when he held those titles?? you are asking a lot from a 37-38 year old man while trying to excuse a guy in his prime. I dont get the point of this thread, Canelo had his shot and lost to a 36 year old
            Dude. I’ll make a deal with you. I’ll acknowledge your bold if you acknowledge that you never speak of Bhop or Foreman ever again on this forum? Lol

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              #46
              Originally posted by Mexican Bidness
              Or what if Roberto Duran never gave Leonard any rematches and said “Easy work!”

              Floyd never dared for the Lineal Middleweight titles at 155 for Cotto or Canelo.
              You would of found SRR in a ditch, Mafia controlled boxing during this era.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Mexican Bidness
                Wait what?! Lol. Dude you’re completely lost. I’ve been saying forever on NSB Floyd did not fight Cotto nor Canelo for their Middleweight/Lineal titles. Again, you don’t know what rematch means... I think you should start with the thread title again and my initial post.
                Erm, did you not say this;

                Originally posted by Mexican Bidness
                The reality is Floyd didn’t have confidence at 154+ post career or else he would’ve went after Cotto’s 154 or Canelo’s 155. There’s no logical explaination for this.
                He already beat Cotto at 154 so why would he have to go after this 154 again?

                There is a totally logical explanation to why he didn’t fight Cotto again; Because not a single soul wanted to see it. If anything it would have hurt Mayweather taking what would have been seen as an easy cherrypick to win the Lineage at 160 against a guy he’s already easily beat at 155, when he’s clearly shown no interest of fighting above 154 ever.

                Like I said, you weren’t watching Boxing at the time so you can’t understand that. You are looking at it with revisionist history because you have no context of how things were seen at the time.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                  Erm, did you not say this;



                  He already beat Cotto at 154 so why would he have to go after this 154 again?

                  There is a totally logical explanation to why he didn’t fight Cotto again; Because not a single soul wanted to see it. If anything it would have hurt Mayweather taking what would have been seen as an easy cherrypick to win the Lineage at 160 against a guy he’s already easily beat at 155, when he’s clearly shown no interest of fighting above 154 ever.

                  Like I said, you weren’t watching Boxing at the time so you can’t understand that. You are looking at it with revisionist history because you have no context of how things were seen at the time.
                  No no no. I’ve said far too many times on the forum, way before this wonderful thread, that Floyd ducked Cotto and Canelo for their Lineal Middleweight titles. I got confused because other poster were mentioned Canelo ducking Lara for a rematch, yet Floyd didn’t defend 154 in the WBA or WBC. The only time Floyd “defended” the 154 was for Chino’s rematch which was a WBC.

                  Now, you’ve got no integrity for such lies. Floyd BRAGS about PPV. Brags about MONEY. Brags about “Easy work.” Flaunts Belts on social media for years... this accumulation throughout the years and you have the audacity to say “nobody wanted to see” a Cotto or Canelo rematch. Cotto whom has a MSG Draw and Canelo’s fanbase. These astronomical PPVs for Floyd attempting a Middleweight crown but fans want to see Berto? And who at 155?!

                  Bruh.... you suspect! Lol

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                  • hugh grant
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                    #49
                    This is why floyd isn't a higher echelon ATG. Floyd only pandered to his own fans, pleasing them.
                    But didn't think he had to convince his critics or boxing fans, trying to convince himself there wasn't a big bad world out there
                    Last edited by hugh grant; 07-09-2020, 03:20 AM.

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                    • Thuglife Nelo
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by hugh grant
                      This is why floyd isn't a higher echelon ATG. Floyd only pandered to his own fans, pleasing them.
                      But didn't think he had to convince his critics or boxing fans
                      Some guys in the thread are saying “nobody wanted to see” Floyd fight for the Lineal Middleweight title with Cotto or Canelo at 155-160. If Floyd acknowledged 144 with Marquez and 152 with Canelo, why do they assume that fans wouldn’t theorize a 155 catch with either Cotto or Canelo? Canelo at 155 looked more proper on fight night than his 152 weigh in. Also Cotto looked bigger with his Geale and Canelo fights.

                      Guys like Larry say Floyd was “old” and didn’t need to move up. He’s insinuating a disadvantage...a disadvantage for 1lb for Cotton’s 155? Floyd said Cotto and Canelo were easy work, then why don’t they acknowledge fights for the Lineal Middleweight at the minimum (weight) for Floyd if they feel it wasn’t a problem? Why choose Berto? These Floyd purists say Cotto and Canelo wasn’t worth to be seen but Berto was? Haymon and Showtime exploited Broner’s loss to Maidana. The Maidana fights weren’t even needed. Why would Floyd fight for Maidana’s Regular 147 WBA when Floyd had the Super version?

                      I don’t understand it.

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