Comments Thread For: Jerry Forrest On Jarrell Miller's PED Use: "That's Attemped Murder In My Eyes"

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  • hitmanjosh
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    #21
    I like the character of this guy;

    But can you fight? All that sounds good for a movie and honorable but boxing is about the hurt game, either come to hurt someone or be hurt leave that weak movie sh_i for the theaters! Good Luck though

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    • The D3vil
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      #22
      He's right.

      We don't know how many people have been maimed or killed due to these roided up monsters.

      I remember I believe it was Gerald McClellan's people saying that they got Nigel Benn's blood tested off of his boot and it tested positive for PEDs.

      Now, I don't know how true this is, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was.

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        #23
        Originally posted by True-Boxing-Fan
        I actually agree with this very much.

        In non combat sports using PEDs screws with the integrity of the sport but the competitors lives are not at risk when they get beat by a PED user.

        In boxing where the idea is to physically hurt your opponent, taking PEDs can put you at such an advantage that you can seriously hurt or kill someone who otherwise prolly not have.

        PEDs users in any combat sport should face criminal charges.
        Exactly. The cheats take themselves outside of the accepted rules and regulations which make boxing "sport"; prosecute them for assault!

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        • Boxingfanatic75
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          #24
          Originally posted by True-Boxing-Fan
          I actually agree with this very much.

          In non combat sports using PEDs screws with the integrity of the sport but the competitors lives are not at risk when they get beat by a PED user.

          In boxing where the idea is to physically hurt your opponent, taking PEDs can put you at such an advantage that you can seriously hurt or kill someone who otherwise prolly not have.

          PEDs users in any combat sport should face criminal charges.
          PED users have been around for decades and I’m still waiting for someone to show a death at the hands of one. It doesn’t happen! However I can show you numerous deaths in the ring at the hands of non PED users. How about all of them? This whole possible, maybe, perhaps is humorous to read because it just does not happen.

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            #25
            Originally posted by The D3vil
            He's right.

            We don't know how many people have been maimed or killed due to these roided up monsters.

            I remember I believe it was Gerald McClellan's people saying that they got Nigel Benn's blood tested off of his boot and it tested positive for PEDs.

            Now, I don't know how true this is, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was.
            Here, I’ll answer for you. None have died at the hands of a PED user. I know that’s all the hype these days to proclaim that a boxer will die, a boxer may die, a boxer could die, a boxer might die...... thus far all deaths in boxing have been at the hands of another clean boxer. Not once have any positive tests confirmed a death in the ring.

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            • slimPickings
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              #26
              BoxingScene could not even manage a picture of Jerry Forrest in this report !?!

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              • True-Boxing-Fan
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                #27
                Originally posted by Boxingfanatic75
                PED users have been around for decades and I’m still waiting for someone to show a death at the hands of one. It doesn’t happen! However I can show you numerous deaths in the ring at the hands of non PED users. How about all of them? This whole possible, maybe, perhaps is humorous to read because it just does not happen.
                Most deaths in the ring happen at the lower levels of boxing where testing is not as required or instituted. So we don’t know who is hot and who is not and because of that you don’t know if the deaths that happened in the ring were PED caused or not.

                Fact is PEDs do give an unfair advantage over the other guy in a sport that the objective is to hurt the other guy. Having an unfair advantage can compromise the other guys health. That’s fact.

                But in your mind PEDs in boxing is totally acceptable and there is nothing wrong with it at all.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Boxingfanatic75
                  I keep hearing the bellowing of “one of these days they will kill someone” or “ attempted murder”. I’m still waiting on anyone to show me a death in the ring that was caused by steroid use. Just one! I can show you many other deaths where steroids was not in use. How about all deaths and not a single one was caused by steroids.

                  This isn’t a rant in support of steroid use. It’s a rant against an article and many of its constant minions who continuously harp about death, possible death, imminent death for an opponent of someone on steroids. It just doesn’t happen. I’d posit that the man taking the steroids will probably die well before the healthy boxer of a heart condition.

                  People are ridiculous drama queens
                  The problem is that "just one" would be one too many and nobody wants to wait for that before truly addressing the problem.

                  To be fair, there hasn't been a death in the ring due to steroid use that we know of, however I'm sure there have been fights where a PED user won a fight that they would have lost otherwise.

                  Just put yourself in a fighter's shoes for a second:

                  You're fighting the fight of your life and you're up on the cards. You get your opponent in trouble and start emptying your tank to finish him off. On a level playing field, you probably win by stoppage but your opponent has super-human strength and stamina due to PEDs. He comes roaring back to stop you with a sudden burst out of nowhere and you can't figure out how he did it. That doesn't sound fair to me.

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                  • Ray*
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Rapscallion
                    The older son of an associate of mine had qualified as a nuclear electrician, and from what I gathered, it took a combination of high IQ and excellent memory. According to their father, he was every bit as smart as his younger brother who graduated medical school. Obviously, Jerry Forrest is not only well educated but also highly intelligent.
                    Nice of you to point this out, I love when i hear about boxers and their academic background.

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                    • The D3vil
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Boxingfanatic75
                      Here, I’ll answer for you. None have died at the hands of a PED user. I know that’s all the hype these days to proclaim that a boxer will die, a boxer may die, a boxer could die, a boxer might die...... thus far all deaths in boxing have been at the hands of another clean boxer. Not once have any positive tests confirmed a death in the ring.
                      Well, that's an asinine way to determine anything, considering the richer fighters can afford to take drugs and get away with it.

                      Lance Armstrong was the most drug tested athlete on the planet & didn't fail tests for like 10 years.

                      We don't know how many fighters have been maimed & killed by guys who were roided up or had HGH.

                      How many of these fights have been VADA tested?

                      How many of the fighers were apart of the 24/7/365 program?

                      Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence.

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