Prime Golovkin vs Prime Canelo who wins?

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  • BodyBagz
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    #71
    Prime GGG ko'ing Prime Nelo, Prime Fury ko'ing Prime Ali, Any Prime guy ko'ing Prime May.....You can tell who the super fans are

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    • HewJohnson
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      #72
      Originally posted by lopetego
      You can see a steady decline in GGG since the Brook match onwards

      post-brook GGG is slower, less sharp, his reflexes are almost gone. pre-Brook GGG had a pretty good defense, current GGG eats punches like skittles.

      although GGG detractors claim it is because he finally stepped up the competition

      one thing for sure, current GGG IS past prime, no way a prime GGG would get jabbed 3 or 4 times in the face consecutively without doing anything or getting beaten from pillar to post by a guy like Derevyanchenko

      No. You see GGG fighting more quality opponents.
      GGG was very much still in his prime against Canelo in fight one. That’s why he did beat Nelo.

      The main reason Derevychenko has success against GGG is because other than GGG now being out of his prime, he also doesn’t have the same mind state he did pre-Nelo.

      Success and money can make somebody very comfortable.

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      • Thuglife Nelo
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        #73
        Originally posted by Lance98
        People who know boxing would know that ggg was even more reckless when he was younger. He would be an even easier target for canelo. Canelo would batter him. ggg went 12 rounds with canelo in their 2 fights was because he played it safe. It really doesn't matter now. Current ggg is just plain washed up.
        Nope. He went deep rounds with an already war torn smaller Ouma. A Prime Canelo would murk GGG at any year. A 160 Canelo isn’t as dangerous as the 168-175 Canelo. Again, “Prime.”

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        • TonyGe
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          #74
          Originally posted by Mexican Bidness
          Nope. He went deep rounds with an already war torn smaller Ouma. A Prime Canelo would murk GGG at any year. A 160 Canelo isn’t as dangerous as the 168-175 Canelo. Again, “Prime.”
          Remind me again of the fighters at 168 that were better than a C grade that he fought.

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          • Thuglife Nelo
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            #75
            Originally posted by TonyGe
            Remind me again of the fighters at 168 that were better than a C grade that he fought.
            What was Ouma’s record when GGG fought him? You’re saying that version of GGG is better than a 2017 GGG? Gennadiy’s physique is bigger in his later years! Explain!

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            • BaguMka
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              #76
              Canelo gets koed by GGG in any year before 2015-2016. There is a reason pednelo dropped his belt to avoid GGG at the time

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              • R-Hand Southpaw
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                #77
                Originally posted by Mexican Bidness
                Pages upon pages. GGG purists still won’t mention what year(s) GGG was prime!
                Honestly, do I entertain one of thee, if not thee biggest troll and nut huggers on this forum? Sure thing.

                2012-2015

                That's GGG at 30-33 years old.

                Honestly I like how you try so hard to pretend people dont have an answer to that question.

                Maybe it's because people like you dont ask because people like you and your trash buddies assume GGG is just a bum regardless right?

                But wait.

                Even before you have your garbage ass follow up let me answer your response to that which is going to be"who did he fight" blah blah blah.

                To which I'll respond with a actual question people like you dont have an answer to.

                Who was there to fight that GGG didnt fight? He fought everyone he could. To which you'll respond with nothing because you dont have an answer.

                Then you'll say something like "anyone from 154-168" but fail to name anyone worth anyone's time.

                You'll say Lara and Ward and that long list you keep pretending you have ends there. Come on bidness. You wanna act like you got some answers PLEASE PROVIDE THAT LONG LIST OF GUYS BETTER THAN GGG DURING HIS CAREER. You'll be every g@y boys hero.

                Then when you realize no one including GGG was going to drop down to 154 for Lara who someone is an amazing talent despite having a resume less stellar than GGGs or Ward, who in 2013 declined a fight with GGG but needed tune ups in 2015 right? Right when GGG was lined up for Canelo/Cotto right?

                What age did Ward retire? 33 years old. Most boxers arent even elite heading into their mid 30s. What are did ODLH retire? 35 and even then youd have a hard time saying he was elite.

                But GGG at that same age? Tell me bidness.

                But why is GGGs prime so late? Because he didnt make it to America until 2012 and didnt turn pro till he was 24.

                But nah mayne. You question was so hard to answer. Cant wait for you to find a way to spin it because someone like you can be trusted to be objective right? Because someone like you have an agenda right?

                Lmfao.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by BaguMka
                  Canelo gets koed by GGG in any year before 2015-2016. There is a reason pednelo dropped his belt to avoid GGG at the time
                  36 rds, 1 FLASH kd between Danny and Nelo.

                  He ko'd Wade, Brook, Vanes and Rolls with ease, though

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                  • Thuglife Nelo
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by R-Hand Southpaw
                    Honestly, do I entertain one of thee, if not thee biggest troll and nut huggers on this forum? Sure thing.

                    2012-2015

                    That's GGG at 30-33 years old.
                    I’m trying to make it easier for you understand. Let’s even take your example. Canelo will be 30 now. You listed GGG as PRIME AT 30.

                    Therefore, at 28-29 Canelo attempted 168-175. Is Canelo not PRIME at 28? You gave GGG 4 years. So from 28-32 Canelo is PRIME?

                    So, which weight, Prime vs Prime given your chronology, does GGG beat a PRIME Canelo? The 2012-2015 GGG beats a PRIME Canelo? GGG never fought Canelo at 168-175

                    Do u get it?

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                    • R-Hand Southpaw
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Mexican Bidness
                      I’m trying to make it easier for you understand. Let’s even take your example. Canelo will be 30 now. You listed GGG as PRIME AT 30.

                      Therefore, at 28-29 Canelo attempted 168-175. Is Canelo not PRIME at 28? You gave GGG 4 years. So from 28-32 Canelo is PRIME?

                      So, which weight, Prime vs Prime given your chronology, does GGG beat a PRIME Canelo? The 2012-2015 GGG beats a PRIME Canelo? GGG never fought Canelo at 168-175

                      Do u get it?
                      I'm really unsure how someone as dumb as you can make things easier for me when you have a hard enough understanding yourself.

                      You claimed no one would give you an answer bour GGGs prime but I did and it was easy. But who did you suprise with your ****** ass answer?

                      No one.

                      Who could have guess that your **** ass self had a predetermined response to the question you asked? Who huh? Did I not point out that I'd entertain one of the worst posters of this forum?

                      Your so ****** that I never once mention when Canelo was in his prime did I? Or what age did I? Feel free to look back through "pages" for a response and be embarassed when you find nothing.

                      But then, someone as shameless and ****** as you probably cant feel embarrassment.

                      Your argument doesn't even respond to the OP because you're too ****** and stuck in your own delusion.

                      The OP asked prime for prime who wins.

                      And here you are trying to say, prime for prime GGG cant beat Canelo because he never fought Canelo at 168-175.

                      lmfao. How ****ing ****** are you.

                      I think Canelo is in his prime and will fall out before hes 33 and to say hes at his prime now? Ridiculous.

                      You're telling me that Canelo is in his prime at 168 when hes fought

                      Rocky Fielding
                      Kovalev

                      And Kovalev was a cherry picked titlist just like how Floyd/Manny were so great they both cherry picked 154 titles right?

                      Cuz floyd and Manny could dominate 154 just like Canelo can dominate 175 right?

                      Lmfao.

                      And now that you have your when answer you need a what weight answer? Very clearly 168. GGG would have fought Canelo if he was at 168 just like how he would have fought floyd if floyd asked for 154.

                      How do I know? Because after GGG/Canelo 2 there was only one guy who didnt want it and it wasnt GGG.

                      And they didnt break off negotiations because of venue and throw out every single excuse such as

                      I want to unify 160 (didnt)
                      GGG needs a belt before a rematch (he has one)
                      DAZN says Kovalev or GGG (chose Kovalev for obvious reasons) and his fans claimed that Canelo calls the shots

                      But he didnt because DAZN forced him to pick Kovalev or GGG and he chose the weakest link.

                      Oh, and before he fought GGG there was 155.

                      So prime for prime Canelo would NEVER considered GGG if he was in his prime. Which is so fuxking funny because you actually think Canelo would fight GGG in his prime when he already very obviously didnt.

                      Too ****ing funny.

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