Comments Thread For: Crawford: 'Mean Machine,' Jeff Horn, Benavidez Would've Given PBC Welterweights Hell

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  • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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    #11
    Nah...........

    They aren’t as bad as people make out but one of the PBC fringe guys like Ugas beats all three of them.

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      #12
      Originally posted by theface07
      I'm a big fan of Bud the boxer, but it's getting harder and harder to like Bud the person with all the comments he's been making since the lockdown. He needs to get back in the ring as soon as possible and hopefully get a big matchup against one of the top 3 PBC welterweights by the end of the year.
      I have no doubt that he could shine against the top 3 but he has yet to prove that at welterweight.
      As much as he tries to build up his wins at 147 up to this point, he will never prove he is #1 at 147 until he fights and beats the best.
      On another note, hopefully he takes the virus seriously now that his gym mate Herring tested positive.
      Yeah I’m sort of the same. Love watching Crawford- amazing fighter, but as a person he seems a little delusional at the
      moment.

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        #13
        Well since Wilder went over to ESPN, it’s only right Arum send over Bud to Fox to fight Shawn Porter!

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          #14
          Originally posted by Bronx2245
          Bud is reaching hard! All those fighters were on the same level as Josesito Lopez, Sergey Lipinets, and Eimanatas Stanionis! All decent fighters, but not on the level of Ugas, Thurman, DSG, Porter, Spence, or Pacquiao! If Bud wants to prove something, he should do what Floyd did, buy out that contract, and go get the fights he wants!
          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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            #15
            I could see Benavides, I'll even give him Horn give a few Top WW a few tuff rounds, but far from hell. Khan at this point ain't giving nobody hell. But it's not just what Crawford has done at WW that he gets criticized for, Crawford at 130, 35, and 40 fought nobody of high caliber and maybe it was no fault of his own, lack of depth in those divisions at the time was apparent but there were a couple more dangerous fights he could of took at the time. Crawford best wins came against Gamboa and Beltran, so that's not saying much. Now, I want to throw Crawford a bone and not judge him on the past, but it's hard when he and Bob continue the trend of fighting subpar opponents. He could buck that trend by fighting and beating guys like Ugas and Porter next instead of fighting another washed up fighter like Brook, so the ball is in Crawford court if he wants to stop this perception.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Bronx2245
              Bud is reaching hard! All those fighters were on the same level as Josesito Lopez, Sergey Lipinets, and Eimanatas Stanionis! All decent fighters, but not on the level of Ugas, Thurman, DSG, Porter, Spence, or Pacquiao! If Bud wants to prove something, he should do what Floyd did, buy out that contract, and go get the fights he wants!
              Bud is by far my favorite WW, but I think by re-signing w/ Arum until 2025, HE IS GETTING the fights he wants. Dudes getting well paid for minimal competition.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Greenfield02
                I could see Benavides, I'll even give him Horn give a few Top WW a few tuff rounds, but far from hell. Khan at this point ain't giving nobody hell. But it's not just what Crawford has done at WW that he gets criticized for, Crawford at 130, 35, and 40 fought nobody of high caliber and maybe it was no fault of his own, lack of depth in those divisions at the time was apparent but there were a couple more dangerous fights he could of took at the time. Crawford best wins came against Gamboa and Beltran, so that's not saying much. Now, I want to throw Crawford a bone and not judge him on the past, but it's hard when he and Bob continue the trend of fighting subpar opponents. He could buck that trend by fighting and beating guys like Ugas and Porter next instead of fighting another washed up fighter like Brook, so the ball is in Crawford court if he wants to stop this perception.
                Horn literally beat Pacquiao...he'd be a tough out for Thurman or Danny Garcia. I think Porter and Spence are too big for him.

                Benavidez would be a tough out for all of them except for Spence because Spence is too big, rangy, and defensive. I think Manny KD Benavidez also in a UD.

                Mean Machine would be a narrow decision or SD with Danny Garcia, Keith Thurman, and Shawn Porter. Manny probably takes it close but clear UD and Spence should win that one as well.

                People hate on Crawford's resume but hes fighting best available competition in his THIRD weight division. That in itself is impressive especially when you consider none of PBC WWs are willing to fight Crawford... :-/

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by millcitymauler
                  Bud is by far my favorite WW, but I think by re-signing w/ Arum until 2025, HE IS GETTING the fights he wants. Dudes getting well paid for minimal competition.
                  I think that Bud assumed that with ESPN joining forces with Top Rank, fighters from the PBC would leave Haymon. Well, many of them did, and they joined Eddie Hearn! Gut Punch! The punch that does the most damage is the one you don't see coming! Hindsight is 20/20!

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34
                    Well since Wilder went over to ESPN, it’s only right Arum send over Bud to Fox to fight Shawn Porter!
                    Porter is the only fight besides Spence that I wanna see really.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by UNBANNED
                      Horn literally beat Pacquiao...he'd be a tough out for Thurman or Danny Garcia. I think Porter and Spence are too big for him.

                      Benavidez would be a tough out for all of them except for Spence because Spence is too big, rangy, and defensive. I think Manny KD Benavidez also in a UD.

                      Mean Machine would be a narrow decision or SD with Danny Garcia, Keith Thurman, and Shawn Porter. Manny probably takes it close but clear UD and Spence should win that one as well.

                      People hate on Crawford's resume but hes fighting best available competition in his THIRD weight division. That in itself is impressive especially when you consider none of PBC WWs are willing to fight Crawford... :-/
                      Crawford couldn't get the Pacquiao fight when he was in the same stable with the man. Pacquiao goes to PBC and fights Thurman near immediately. Crawford seems to always have an excuse for not getting fights while all the other top guys are finding each other. PBC and Matchroom don't seem to have a problem with each other, but everyone on Top Rank is being "ducked". We've been hearing this since the Mayweather-Pacquiao days.

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