Who was a better Mexican heavyweight?

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  • Thuglife Nelo
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    #21
    Originally posted by BodyBagz
    And at the same time, showed he wasn't meant to be a king.

    Andy by the ''slimmest'' of margins

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    Winning a title is nice. Keeping it is great.
    Sure, but how many immediate rematches have there been at Heavyweight? I think Andy couldve defended against many other heavyweights, no problem. How many Heavyweights have fought two different styles like AJ in an immediate rematch? Joshua was super cautious in the rematch. Such context is important if we need to theorize hypothetical defenses against others.

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    • Sheppirino
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      #22
      Ruiz without a question. He at least won the title when he got his chance. They may both be fat but Ruiz has way better boxing skills.

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      • BodyBagz
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        #23
        Originally posted by Mexican Bidness
        Sure, but how many immediate rematches have there been at Heavyweight? I think Andy couldve defended against many other heavyweights, no problem. How many Heavyweights have fought two different styles like AJ in an immediate rematch? Joshua was super cautious in the rematch. Such context is important if we need to theorize hypothetical defenses against others.
        The Andy that ''fought'' AJ wasn't going to beat anyone.

        A legit champ makeS necessary adjustments.

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        • Thuglife Nelo
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          #24
          Originally posted by BodyBagz
          The Andy that ''fought'' AJ wasn't going to beat anyone.

          A legit champ makeS necessary adjustments.
          Lol. Right. Unfortunately Ruiz didn’t have the benefit for a Trilogy like Fury vs Wilder.

          Rather practical for Andy not having the opportunity for a Third “adjustment” when there’s no fight. Like AJ not making the “adjustments” in the first fight? When Ruiz got floored in fight 1 did he make adjustments?

          Btw, the forum knows I’m a huge AJ fan. Just stop hating on Ruiz it’s rather ******. He’s a good fighter, explosive, and has has great 1-2 combos. Heavyweight fans love that

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            #25
            Originally posted by Mexican Bidness
            Lol. Right. Unfortunately Ruiz didn’t have the benefit for a Trilogy like Fury vs Wilder.

            Rather practical for Andy not having the opportunity for a Third “adjustment” when there’s no fight. Like AJ not making the “adjustments” in the first fight? When Ruiz got floored in fight 1 did he make adjustments?

            Btw, the forum knows I’m a huge AJ fan. Just stop hating on Ruiz it’s rather ******. He’s a good fighter, explosive, and has has great 1-2 combos. Heavyweight fans love that
            Which is worse,

            Too much hate = Not candy coating the truth
            Too much love = Making excuses/giving out passes

            I'm not a fan of either. In fact, I'm not sold on this HW era. I highly doubt Ruiz wins another title.

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              #26
              Originally posted by BodyBagz
              And at the same time, showed he wasn't meant to be a king.

              Andy by the ''slimmest'' of margins

              Edit -

              Winning a title is nice. Keeping it is great.
              Arreola never came close to winning a title. Ruiz beat the number on ranked HW at the time and gave Joshua a whipping. Go back to the drawing board.

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                #27
                Originally posted by 15round
                Arreola never came close to winning a title. Ruiz beat the number on ranked HW at the time and gave Joshua a whipping. Go back to the drawing board.
                King for a day is almost the exact same thing as not being a king at all.

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                • KillaMane26
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                  #28
                  Ruiz..... Not even close

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                  • Thuglife Nelo
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by BodyBagz
                    Which is worse,

                    Too much hate = Not candy coating the truth
                    Too much love = Making excuses/giving out passes

                    I'm not a fan of either. In fact, I'm not sold on this HW era. I highly doubt Ruiz wins another title.
                    This heavyweight era is better than the 80-2000’s because of advanced testing. The previous generations after the 70’s was a very dark time in boxing because of no testing done in today’s standards.

                    Don’t you find that ironic? A Ruiz type of physique back in the 80’2000s would’ve fought like Pacquiao before advanced drug testing! Dem is fax!

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                    • Thuglife Nelo
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by BodyBagz
                      King for a day is almost the exact same thing as not being a king at all.
                      Don’t embarrass yourself bruh. I’d give you a pass if you bet big on Ruiz for the rematch and lost! Lol. If not that, you’re not making any sense.

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