Is Gennady Golovkin Overrated or Underrated?

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  • TonyGe
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    #41
    Originally posted by R-Hand Southpaw
    He probably wasnt thinking. The biggest question mark between Canelo vs GGG 1 was could Canelo handle GGGs shots?

    The answer after the first fight was yes. Yeah they hurt but he didnt get overwhelmed like everyone else.

    Imagine you're GGG in the 2nd fight. The whole time you trained to fight Canelo the same way you did the first time and he comes out with a COMPLETELY different game plan. I watched a lot of what came out with GGG and Sanchez and they were training to deal with Canelo moving.

    Problem then became Sanchez had no answer. He literally kept telling GGG to go forward and fight the younger, faster fighter, in a battle of short range which is NOT GGGs best range.

    GGGs best range is mid range right at the end of his jab. Like most Euro fighters GGG does not excell at infighting. Canelo isnt that great either but having faster hands and combinations. Big plus.

    So what did GGG do? GGG began to box which I think suprised a lot of people including myself. Most forward going pressure fighters dont do good fighting on their back foot but GGG did GREAT. IMO there were many times where GGG was out boxing Canelo.

    I I that Canelo just recieved the benefit of the doubt. He won the narrative and for many people that was good enough.

    Anyone who follows GGG knows exactly why GGG dropped Abel. Abel did GGG wrong and GGG knew it too. The key to success wasnt to try and bully Canelo (the one from the second fight) but to outbox and outwork Canelo. Thing is though when a boxer enters training camp they train for specific things theyll do or see. HIGHLY doubt sanchez was forcing GGG to box so great to see him fall back on his amateur background.

    That's why he went with Banks too. He wanted Banks to teach him to box which IMO I dont really agree with. I get what he wants to do but I dont think Banks is the guy and I think it's a little late too. He doesn't need to drastically change his style, just add a little more movement.

    He still highly effective but needs someone who is a great planner. Well executed game plans can win fights and that's what GGG needs.
    I never liked the videos I saw coming out of that gym. I know they were propaganda videos but the ones I saw were Golovkin hitting the mitts and pad with power. Over and over again. Contrast the ones coming out of Canelo's gym. I'm not a boxer but even I could see in the first fight Canelo was more effective off the ropes. Then that little self serving speech Sanchez gave post fight. I was shocked. His guy gave it everything he had and his trainer is praising the other fighter after a razor thin loss. Inside game? He doesn't have one or if he did it's rusty.
    Last edited by TonyGe; 06-26-2020, 11:50 PM.

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    • Curt Henning
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      #42
      Originally posted by TonyGe
      Great post. Canelo's fight plan was all wrong. His corner could see exactly what you said and was telling him to get off the ropes. Then Sanchez who is supposed to be the master planner eggs Canelo on to fight the rematch where he was the most effective, in the center of the ring. For crying out loud what was he thinking.
      youre replying to a guy that said "szeremata is ranked higher than andrade"!!!!....because hes unaware that the orgs dont rank the other orgs champs lol....

      "great post"...lol...its horrible...but i can see you gggroupies need to stick together

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      • Ritz Kola
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        #43
        Extremely overrated. The BIGGEST HYPE JOB OF THE 2010's and greatest hype job in modern Boxing history. There is no bigger overrated fighter in recent history than Lil g. There are two runner-ups when it comes to the list of hype jobs in the pass decade. However Lil g, was a monumental level hype job. Exceedingly overrated. Racists love him for the same reason they hate Deontay Wilder. Wherever there's contradiction, there's a fighter being overrated.

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        • Simurgh
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          #44
          Used to be overrated, now is underrated. The story for most fighters on this forum.

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          • BoxingIsGreat
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            #45
            Originally posted by Ritz Kola
            Extremely overrated. The BIGGEST HYPE JOB OF THE 2010's and greatest hype job in modern Boxing history. There is no bigger overrated fighter in recent history than Lil g. There are two runner-ups when it comes to the list of hype jobs in the pass decade. However Lil g, was a monumental level hype job. Exceedingly overrated. Racists love him for the same reason they hate Deontay Wilder. Wherever there's contradiction, there's a fighter being overrated.
            Co-sign. Never seen anything like it before. If he were an African American, he'd be another Curtis Stevens.

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            • Shadoww702
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              #46
              Originally posted by Vlad_
              This poll is dependent on how many Canelo **** riders vote in here.
              More like how many times you suked the GGGood Dic and made EXCUSES for Vanes, Rolls, Wade. Simon says fights.

              Didn't you argue with me one time about how Wade was undefeated and deserved his shot and was the real deal????

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                #47
                Originally posted by Vlad_
                This poll is dependent on how many Canelo **** riders vote in here.
                Fill out your OWN Butthurt.

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                • Vlad_
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Shadoww702
                  More like how many times you suked the GGGood Dic and made EXCUSES for Vanes, Rolls, Wade. Simon says fights.

                  Didn't you argue with me one time about how Wade was undefeated and deserved his shot and was the real deal????
                  Nope. Wasn't me.

                  Made no excuses for none of them. Every fighter has a soft touch sometimes.

                  How can you mention Vanes when the only reason that fight happened was because Canelo was caught dirty. GGG was supposed to fight Canelo.

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                  • Shadoww702
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Vlad_
                    Nope. Wasn't me.

                    Made no excuses for none of them. Every fighter has a soft touch sometimes.

                    How can you mention Vanes when the only reason that fight happened was because Canelo was caught dirty. GGG was supposed to fight Canelo.
                    I mention Vanes because Sergiy and Andrade both said yup!

                    Heck Sergiy was even willing to take the bare min. and nothing close to the $5+ million he wanted from Canelo (In case you want roll that way).

                    Also Canelo lost his belt without even a VANES fight. He lost his belt NO fight and less then 3 months later. But hey be a hypocrite...

                    If rest you say is tru my bad! But most don't ever keep it real.

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                    • Shadoww702
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                      put it this way...


                      all of that... " anyone from 154-168 "... talk, was garbage

                      all of that... " Golovkin knocks out heavyweights "... talk, was garbage

                      all that... " Golovkin will destroy Canelo "... talk, was garbage

                      all of that... " Golovkin would beat Hagler, Hopkins, Monzon "... talk, was garbage


                      the fact is, despite all of that bullshlt... and despite all of those promises... and despite the fact that in this very thread even Golovkin fans admit that he underachieved and does not have a great resume... Golovkin fell short of HIS OWN hype... so yea, he was over-rated

                      #underachiever
                      Don't forget GGG would KTFO of Canelo and Ward in under 4 rounds. Heck they brag about SPARRING??? Kovalov traveled to Abel's gym hung over as *** and first thing thy do is put drunk jet-lagged Kov in the ring???

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