Does Pacquiao have a win as significant as Mayweather beating Pacquiao ????

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    #51
    Originally posted by !! Anorak
    You've blown my mind there, son. Mayweather outpointed a much smaller fighter who was clearly past his prime. Incredible, how does he do it?
    If the younger Manny was past his prime when he lost to Floyd then goes on years later to defeat Thurman that means Floyd was leagues above both.

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      #52
      Originally posted by mcdonalds
      Does pacquiao have a win that is more significant than Mayweather beating Pac?

      Answer the question, I'm waiting
      They're calling you a troll because they can't answer the question without deleting their accounts

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        #53
        Originally posted by Offline
        If the younger Manny was past his prime when he lost to Floyd then goes on years later to defeat Thurman that means Floyd was leagues above both.
        It means that Floyd was leagues above Thurman, at least.

        Plus, no it doesn't, not really - triangular logic.

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          #54
          Originally posted by Offline
          If the younger Manny was past his prime when he lost to Floyd then goes on years later to defeat Thurman that means Floyd was leagues above both.
          No, not really. It means Pac beat the man Floyd ducked at 41, whilst Floyd ducked him at 37 years of age.
          It also means Floyd beat the not far removed from ko loss to jmm version and wasn't quite himself yet and thurman got the better version, and Pac has off night v floyd
          It also means Pac got an Iv version of floyd, and Floyd didn't give rematch as he knew if Pac was 100% h ed lose to pac.
          Let's be honest, Floyd gets little credit for win
          Last edited by hugh grant; 06-23-2020, 04:26 PM.

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            #55
            Originally posted by SplitSecond
            Pac over Bradley is better because Bradley was an undefeated elite who cleaned out 140 and in his prime. Pacquiao stopped his roll. Mayweather beat Pacquiao after he’d been ko’d, forced out of the ring for a year and changed his style, the roll was already stopped. Same with Thurman, an elite, albeit not peak, in his physical prime and young, especially relative to Pacquiao, which is what makes it a great win. Marquez, prime elite, Barrera, prime elite, on a roll too.

            There was more substance on Pacquiao beating Thurman, Bradley, Barrera. Mayweather albeit a good win, is mainly just the Pacquiao name. He didn’t beat the machine. He didn’t fight the guy that was fighting Cotto, Margarito etc.

            In comparison the runs Mayweather is stopping is fraudulent and short runs, usually from hasbeens. Like Juicely beating a drained Margarito, and showing up painfully shot vs Mayweather with no juice, or Cotto, reastablishing himself as some top fighter because he beat a bum and two hasbeens, after Floyd goes right into losing to Trout, showing how elite he was at that point, or Ortiz beating other hypekin Berto. Amazing stuff.
            You deserve a reward for the this level of mental gymastics, crazy stuff. Lets put this in bullet points...
            • Pacquiao clearly beat a "prime" bradley in 2014, then mayweather beat Pacquiao in 2015. If Pacquiao was better than bradley, and mayweather was better than pacquiao, then how is pacquiao beating bradley a better win than Mayweather beating the guy who beat bradley? Oh and Pac wasn't coming off a year layoff, he fought in november of 2014. Floyd actually had a longer layoff
            • Thurman wasn't in his prime. He recently came off a 2 year layoff due to injuries and almost got stopped by josesito. Anyway, if a 40 year old pac asserted superiority over thurman....and floyd beat a 4 year younger better version of pac, then how is Pacquiao beating thurman a better win than Mayweather beating a younger better version of the guy who beat Thurman?
            • Barrera and Marquez were 5 years older than Pac. He only beat Marquez by debated SD and Marquez was 34! Meanwhie, Pac is two years younger than Floyd and is still a champion 5 years later!

            Floyd beating Pacquiao when Pacquiao was the top 2 p4p fighter in the world, a champion, 2 years younger than him, and who went on to still be a champion 5 years after Floyd's victory over him >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ALL of those wins.

            Lets see what you come up with next, this is too easy

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            Last edited by mcdonalds; 06-23-2020, 06:25 PM.

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              #56
              Originally posted by !! Anorak
              You've blown my mind there, son. Mayweather outpointed a much smaller fighter who was clearly past his prime. Incredible, how does he do it?
              Floyd was past his prme as well, pac is younger and is still a champ today!! Here comes the size excuse, even though Pac had been a welterweight for 5 years before fighting Floyd and is still a welterweight 5 years later. Yea, lets forget floyd moved up in weight throughout his career as well

              Got any more excuses?


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                #57
                Originally posted by mcdonalds
                Floyd was past his prme as well, pac is younger and is still a champ today!! Here comes the size excuse, even though Pac had been a welterweight for 5 years before fighting Floyd and is still a welterweight 5 years later. Yea, lets forget floyd moved up in weight throughout his career as well

                Got any more excuses?


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                Look pac is 8 division champ. Pac being 8 division champ is better than floyd s win over pac, get over it. Age in boxing isn't chronological. It's mileage on clock and pac had more mileage. The fact pac is still looking good is a credit to pac and pac only. The fact floyd looked worn in his last fights, having had less wars and less fights is indicative of Floyd not being as great as pac.
                Most of the fighters floyd beat dissapeared almost instantly after floyd best them. So floyd fans are going way OTT with living off pac s and nelos wins.
                Most don't think floyd even beat pac and the fight wasn't without its controversies so how good can the win be in most peoples eyes? No matter how good Pac does, Floyd is nt taking any risks fighting a 5ft 5 inch man.

                It's not a great win however you spin it
                Last edited by hugh grant; 06-24-2020, 02:30 AM.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by mcdonalds
                  Floyd was past his prme as well, pac is younger and is still a champ today!! Here comes the size excuse, even though Pac had been a welterweight for 5 years before fighting Floyd and is still a welterweight 5 years later. Yea, lets forget floyd moved up in weight throughout his career as well

                  Got any more excuses?


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                  You don't decide who is more shop worn by working out chronological age. Come on now, you know better than that.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by JohnCastellanos
                    Yeah but be reasonable that win against Pac was so weak all he did is run around the ring like a phag! He didn’t prove anything! I’m not saying Pac won but but not much of a way to prove anything. Marquez figured a way to KO him. Not saying Mayweather isn’t great but come on man his resume is very opportunistic
                    Pick a resume that's better than Floyd, both in name and challenges. I'll wait. Thanks.

                    Triangle theories don't work. Floyd toyed with the Marquez that KOed the Pacman.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
                      Pick a resume that's better than Floyd, both in name and challenges. I'll wait. Thanks.

                      Triangle theories don't work. Floyd toyed with the Marquez that KOed the Pacman.
                      Duran, SRL, Ali, Willie Pep, SRL, Armstrong, Langford, Pacquiao on the top of my head.

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