Does Pacquiao have a win as significant as Mayweather beating Pacquiao ????

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  • hansS
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    #31
    Mayweather waited until Pacquiao was beaten to accept the fight. Pacquiao never needed to cherrypick.

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    • hugh grant
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      #32
      Originally posted by TonyGe
      I thought Pacquiao won or at least drew the fight. He was the aggressor landed the harder punches and landed more punches. Floyd got credit for punches that didn't land. Hell the announcers went bannanas everytime he threw a punch.
      This is what home advantage gives you. That's why if you had home advantage like Floyd did your more obligated in people's eyes to give rematch, that's called being a gentlemen. That's the least Floyd could have given.

      But Floyd beat pac after Pac had 70 fights. You are always going to get less credit for beating this version of Pac as 70 fights in anyone's language means your at end of career
      Pac has more to gain from a win over you, than you do over him now.
      Pac will get more credit for beating thurman than thurman will beating pac. Pac will get more credit for beating Crawford than Crawford will get for beating pac.
      That's why bradley, horn and Floyd didn't get much credit. You are only beating the man who killed himself to win titles in 8 divisions after 70 fights, you don't put all pac s wins on your resume!
      After pac s career and age you don't get much credit, Pac gets all the credit. Pac s had little to lose and more to gain. People expect Pac to lose now
      Last edited by hugh grant; 06-23-2020, 06:07 AM.

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      • TonyGe
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        #33
        Originally posted by hugh grant
        This is what home advantage gives you. That's why if you had home advantage like Floyd did your more obligated in people's eyes to give rematch, that's called being a gentlemen. That's the least Floyd could have given.

        But Floyd beat pac after Pac had 70 fights. You are always going to get less credit for beating this version of Pac as 70 fights in anyone's language means your at end of career
        Pac has more to gain from a win over you, than you do over him now.
        Pac will get more credit for beating thurman than thurman will beating pac. Pac will get more credit for beating Crawford than Crawford will get for beating pac.
        That's why bradley, horn and Floyd didn't get much credit. You are only beating the man who killed himself to win titles in 8 divisions after 70 fights, you don't put all pac s wins on your resume!
        After pac s career and age you don't get much credit, Pac gets all the credit. Pac s had little to lose and more to gain. People expect Pac to lose now
        Good points. I thought Pac had no chance against Thurman.

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          #34
          Don't think so. The first MAB fight is probably his best win. MAB's an ATG, but Mayweather he ain't.

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          • SplitSecond
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            #35
            That mayweather win isn’t better than Marquez’s win over Pacquiao, and is on par with Horn. Not that special considering where he was and who beat him just before and after. Pacquiao beating Barrera, Marquez, Bradley, Thurman is better.

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              #36
              Originally posted by mcdonalds
              Has Pacquiao ever successfully UNIFIED against a top 2 p4p fighter who is younger than him, an ATG, a former champ in multiple weight classes, and who ended up still being a champion 5 years later after the fight? Has he ever won a fight of the same magnitude as the event on May 2nd, 2015?


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              • mcdonalds
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                #37
                Originally posted by SplitSecond
                That mayweather win isn’t better than Marquez’s win over Pacquiao, and is on par with Horn. Not that special considering where he was and who beat him just before and after. Pacquiao beating Barrera, Marquez, Bradley, Thurman is better.
                We already established that Barrera isn't a better win. And getting a SD against Marquez is better?

                Pacquiao Beating Bradley is a better win than Mayweather beating Pacquiao, aka the guy who beat Bradley? If Pacquiao is better than Bradley and Mayweather is better than Pac then how is Pacquiao beating Bradley a better win?

                If Thurman lost to a 40 year old pac and Floyd beat a 36 year old pac, then how is Pacquiao beating Thurman better than Floyd beating Pac?

                This is too easy
                Last edited by mcdonalds; 06-23-2020, 10:09 AM.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by mcdonalds
                  We already established that Barrera isn't a better win. And getting a SD against Marquez is better?

                  Pacquiao Beating Bradley is a better win than Mayweather beating Pacquiao, aka the guy who beat Bradley? If Pacquiao is better than Bradley and Mayweather is better than Pac then how is Pacquiao beating Bradley a better win?

                  If Thurman lost to a 40 year old pac and Floyd beat a 36 year old pac, then how is Pacquiao beating Thurman better than Floyd beating Pac?

                  This is too easy
                  Marquez was prime, Barrera was prime, Bradley was prime, and Thurman was a hell of an achievement for an old man, breaking further records. What did Mayweather achieve by beating Pacquiao when he did? He beat a Pacquiao coming off a ko, a Pacquiao Jeff Horn beat also.

                  If Mayweather stopped his streak, that’d be one thing. But Pacquiao was timid after getting KO’d. Mayweather was simply one of the vulture’s at Pacquiao’s corpse.

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                  • mcdonalds
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by SplitSecond
                    Marquez was prime, Barrera was prime, Bradley was prime, and Thurman was a hell of an achievement for an old man, breaking further records. What did Mayweather achieve by beating Pacquiao when he did? He beat a Pacquiao coming off a ko, a Pacquiao Jeff Horn beat also.

                    If Mayweather stopped his streak, that’d be one thing. But Pacquiao was timid after getting KO’d. Mayweather was simply one of the vulture’s at Pacquiao’s corpse.
                    Pac is better than Barrera in every single facet of the sport. It's already established, Floyd's win is more significant. Marquez was a SD, not as impressive. Plus Marquez and Barrera are older than Pac while Pac is younger than Floyd and is still fighting til this day!

                    Pac was "corpse" and coming off a KO (that happened 3 years prior lol); but was a champion, top 2 p4p, and is still a champ 5 years later

                    If pacquiao is better than a prime Bradley, and Mayweather beat pacquiao, then how is Pacquiao beating Bradley the better win?

                    Thurman wasn't in his prime (look up what the word prime means), but anyway I'll play a long. If 40 year old pacquiao is better than a "prime" Thurman, and Mayweather beat pacquiao 4 years prior, then how is Pacquiao beating Thurman better than Mayweather beating Pacquiao?
                    Last edited by mcdonalds; 06-23-2020, 10:34 AM.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by mcdonalds
                      Pac is better than Barrera in every single facet of the sport. It's already established, Floyd's win is more significant. Marquez was a SD, not as impressive. Plus Marquez and Barrera are older than Pac while Pac is younger than Floyd and is still fighting til this day!

                      Pac was "corpse" and coming off a KO (that happened 3 years prior lol); but was a champion, top 2 p4p, and is still a champ 5 years later

                      If pacquiao is better than a prime Bradley, and Mayweather beat pacquiao, then how is Pacquiao beating Bradley the better win?

                      Thurman wasn't in his prime (look up what the word prime means), but anyway I'll play a long. If 40 year old pacquiao is better than a "prime" Thurman, and Mayweather beat pacquiao 4 years prior, then how is Pacquiao beating Thurman better than Mayweather beating Pacquiao?
                      Dumb logic. That’s like saying if Robinson is better than a prime Lamotta, and Joey Archer beat Robinson, doesn’t that mean Archer has the better win over Robinson’s on Lamotta. The answer is No. Because context is everything.

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