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  • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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    #61
    Originally posted by coghaugen
    WBO was one of the four sanctioning bodies. They're all the same.
    Originally posted by coghaugen
    Well exactly, just being one of the best along with Roy Jones etc is not average by any stretch! Just crazy silly talk, obviously trolling with nothing better to do
    Nah the WBO was like the IBO in the 90’s. It wasn’t even recognised by the other 3 sanctioning bodies.

    Eubank never proved himself as great. He never mixed it with Jones, Toney, Nunn, Mclellan, McCallum, Barkley etc.

    Aside from Benn what other great win did he have? We can all talk about how good Watson would have been but in reality he never proved himself beyond domestic level.

    I’m a big Eubank fan myself, I loved the character, loved what he brought to British boxing but you have to be realistic. You’re completely romanticising over his career. Eubank was a superstar in the UK but in the context of world boxing he was never considered an elite fighter. He hasn’t made it into the HOF for that exact reason.

    You’ll probably get all offended by this and reply with like 4 or 5 posts but the truth hurts brother...

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    • coghaugen
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      #62
      If you don't consider what he did in the Watson fight as truly great then there's no helping you. Who cares if he didn't fight these names (or if some US-based 'Hall of fame' popularity contest haven't voted him)? Eubank doesn't. That win could never be eclipsed - he couldn't win, and won. It goes beyond fanboy internet forum talk, no offense.

      What about the viewing figures on Star in Asia and SABC in South Africa?? Only Foreman-Morrison was near Eubank fights for ratings on Star across Asia. Had the first PPV fight outside the US v. Rocky.

      I'm offended by your idiocy, not personally offended.

      There were four sanctioning bodies - the rankings contained the same fighters! IBO is still not a governing body. Who cares about the letters, so long as its one of the four. In fact WBC was and is far more corrupt.
      Last edited by coghaugen; 06-26-2020, 01:31 PM.

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        #63
        Not to mention all he did for fighters rights, turning boxing upside down and altering the way that fighter and manager/promoter did business. If this 'IBHOF' don't want to recognise how he changed the sport then so be it, it really happened and will be seen as such over the centuries. He wasn't a meme or a celebrity, he was real and did what he did, can't change the facts or the truth, much as it might hurt.

        Until you've been in the ring and done what he did and been through what he's been through with tragedies etc, you have zero place to talk. I'm guessing you're simply a keyboard warrior, a nobody.
        Last edited by coghaugen; 06-26-2020, 01:20 PM.

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          #64
          This was by far and away his worst performance -




          I had Schommer winning eight rounds clearly. The only decision that really was wrong. Karma got him when he was semi-robbed against Collins (first) and Thompson (first) for it
          Last edited by coghaugen; 06-26-2020, 01:41 PM.

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            #65
            Originally posted by coghaugen
            They aren't facts though are they. He won these fights - those are the facts. His record was 43-0-2 going into the Collins fight, his 20th world title fight in exactly four years and four months - that's never been done. Ever.
            They are literally facts.

            He drew with Ray Close and arguably lost the rematch.

            He failed to beat him clearly along with a number of sub par opponents.

            Those are facts whether you like them or not.

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              #66
              Originally posted by coghaugen
              Forget all this 'struggling with Ray Close' crap. Nobody cares. He already proved himself.
              You don’t care because you’re delusional and deny reality.

              Anyone objective cares and it means a whole lot.

              A guy who can’t beat Ray Close in clear fashion speaks for itself especially when their wins are extremely thin.

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                #67
                Originally posted by coghaugen
                This was by far and away his worst performance -




                I had Schommer winning eight rounds clearly. The only decision that really was wrong. Karma got him when he was semi-robbed against Collins (first) and Thompson (first) for it
                Just another fight where Eubank failed to clearly beat a sub par opponent.

                You chose this one as the only one when the reality is there are several.

                He also wasn’t robbed against Collins nor Thompson.

                You are not in touch with reality at all I’m afraid.
                Last edited by IronDanHamza; 06-26-2020, 02:22 PM.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                  They are literally facts.

                  He drew with Ray Close and arguably lost the rematch.

                  He failed to beat him clearly along with a number of sub par opponents.

                  Those are facts whether you like them or not.
                  'Arguably'. Right.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                    Just another fight where Eubank failed to clearly beat a sub par opponent.

                    You chose this one as the only one when the reality is there are several.

                    He also wasn’t robbed against Collins nor Thompson.

                    You are not in touch with reality at all I’m afraid.
                    The objective is to win.

                    Nobody said he was.

                    Playing word games on some internet boxing forum, mature

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                      #70
                      0.00000001% of fighters reach that level. 90% spar one round and stop.

                      Ray Close for instance was an elite amateur, beating Tiozzo and Michalczewski and losing a 3-2 decision in Havana, Cuba to Cuban Romero (who beat Holyfield 4-1) and 4-1 to legendary Maske in Germany (there was also a devastating 30-second loss to a certain Henry Wharton) in highly disputed decs. He outboxed Nardiello in 92 or 93 and made him quit, Nardiello was robbed even more severely than Roy Jones was against Park Si-Hun in the Olympics in a previous round, but not much is said or known of that...
                      Last edited by coghaugen; 06-26-2020, 03:40 PM.

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