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  • #11
    Originally posted by deathofaclown View Post
    Fury arguably beats any past HW, head to head.

    Hard to say he is the greatest when he hasn’t got the depth in the resume, but I think he would be a nightmare for any heavyweight in history.

    We should just accept like in other sports that fighters now are bigger, stronger, and more athletic.
    I hate those type of arguments because the previous eras didnt have the same diets/sports nutrition available and i also think it's partly evolution/natural selection that kids are taller now.

    Like TF's dad was probably full of testosterone when TF was conceived, the sons tower over their dad. Same with Hughie Fury and his dad peter.
    It's the same with most kids i see in the last 2 generations, way taller than their fathers.

    Yet it may well be the next generation are weaker because they're all on mobile phones and online from an early age?

    It's also to do with the way humans have progressed from the industrial era. Prior to the industrial era people were not eating good. during the industrial era people were smoking, still not eating right, working in pollution, in mines etc.

    There's been a small window in say, the 80s/90s that's been the optimum time (and people say those were the best ever eras to live in..and i reckon its true).

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    • #12
      Many fighters are invincible, untouchable, the best ever of any era.

      Then comes a day when they lose their first fight.

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      • #13
        Here goes another loud mouth with an ego an entire stadium can’t fit in.

        Prides goes before a fall Fury, as the Christian you claim to be you should know that.

        Fury is going to lose soon, and when he does I hope he handles it well and all his demons don’t come manifesting

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        • #14
          I'd put his comeback up there with the greatest in sport, let alone boxing.

          But he's only had 3 title fights, won 2, drawn 1 and made 0 defences. That's not what you'd call 'great' by any stretch of the imagination.

          Though he still has time to win the Wilder trilogy, 2 scraps against Joshua and maybe a top contender or 2 like Whyte and Usyk. He'd be remembered as a modern time great if he came through all those.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Inspired View Post
            Like TF's dad was probably full of testosterone when TF was conceived, the sons tower over their dad. Same with Hughie Fury and his dad peter.
            It's the same with most kids i see in the last 2 generations, way taller than their fathers.

            Yet it may well be the next generation
            Or someone else is actually the father😉

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Ant1979 View Post
              I'd put his comeback up there with the greatest in sport, let alone boxing.
              You're smoking crack if you think Fury's comeback is better than Tigers masters win last year....

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              • #17
                Originally posted by deathofaclown View Post
                Fury arguably beats any past HW, head to head.

                Hard to say he is the greatest when he hasn’t got the depth in the resume, but I think he would be a nightmare for any heavyweight in history.

                We should just accept like in other sports that fighters now are bigger, stronger, and more athletic.
                Tyson Fury is tall but he is not really that much bigger than Lennox Lewis 'If he was to come in as solid as Joshua he would be weighing in under 250 pounds'.

                But since his comeback he has been unable to duplicate his condition that he had up against Kiltschko. Most of these superheavyweights these days have created a illusion, they are not monsters.

                Most if not all of them are out of condition 'Stereotypically speaking', it is only really Anthony Joshua who is solid at the weight.

                So is Tyson Fury a evolutionary improvement on the fighters from the 70's,80's,90's? I don't entirely believe the theory of evolution, but nowhere in nature do creatures get bigger, more clumsy and out of condition as to improve their chances of survival 'Nature does not work like that, Nature refines itself'.

                Note: I know Tyson Fury is not out of condition, it is just his body type. But what I am stating is? If he was solid at the weight, he would be fighting at 250 + pounds or just under 250 pounds.
                Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 06-21-2020, 07:44 AM.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Inspired View Post
                  Beat Joshua, Whyte, Ruiz, Usyk, Parker, Dubois and maybe Hrgovic.
                  Then we can all say he's def the greatest of all time.
                  i don't know if your actually been serious lol

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by HitmanTommy View Post
                    You're smoking crack if you think Fury's comeback is better than Tigers masters win last year....
                    That was an amazing comeback, no doubting. But that was largely due to a physical injury which will have also created mental problems, but the mental side of things would have dissipated more naturally once the assurances of the physical fix kicked in.

                    Fury's problems were mental which created physical problems. And it's a different type of challenge to fix a mindset than it is to fuse 2 discs. He was effectively on suicide watch, blew up to 400lb and had all manner of demons to conquer (just like Tiger but more extreme - as Fury is the very definition of an extremist).

                    The fact that boxing is a combat sport also has to be taken into consideration. The level of abuse Fury put his mind and body through was immense. The last place on earth you would have thought appropriate was a sharing a ring with a ****er like Wilder, who had a lot more than power on his side.

                    I'm not taking anything away from Tiger, maximum respect but I can assure you it wasn't just a lazy comment on my behalf.

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                    • #20
                      Definitely

                      Not the cleanest heavyweight, ever. How soon we forget he tested positive for PEDs.

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