Comments Thread For: Arum: Pacquiao Needs a Crawford Blockbuster, GGG Way Too Big

[BodyBagz]

Anyone who thought Pac would EVER fight a guy other than Margarito above WW exposed themselves as a know nothing. Any real threat above WW limit would be claused to death.

[Bluebird]

When has he ever said before if he dont fight in the Philippines then he wont fight?
Horn won the fight and was willing to do it again in Australia but Pacman said no not Arum.
I like Mañny but he still has Jeff Horn problems.

I’m sorry bro, Pac’s Legacy is already cemented with or without Horn. He worked his way up to be a world welterweight champion again and now, all the top welterweight boxers want to fight him, that’s how relevant he is despite his age. Horn needs to work his way up and beat some significant fighters in a very convincing way to be in contention again, he needs to do it the “old fashioned way”.

[hugh grant]

Pac s top 3 All time Why the heck is he so ambitious still at 41? He don't need to fight crawford.
But if Pac did beat crawford I don't think I'd be diplomatic anymore, time for diplomacy would be over.
I d say Pac was goat. Right now he's just a candidate

[Biolink]

I give Pacquiao, as old as he is, a good shot at GGG.

Old, small Pacquiao>Old, bigger GGG.

After what Derevyanchenko did to GGG, Pacquiao and Roach probably feel they can do 10x better than that.

I can see Pacquiao cutting up GGG's face, bloodying him up, and staying away from his slow ass.

Nah bro.

Pac himself said Margarito was the most heavy-handed fighter he fought, never again going up in weight like that again, and that was pretty much the worst version of Margs.

GGG is dropping guys with power jabs, and he's more fleet footed than a Margs. Bad idea for Pac.

[Roadblock]

Pac s top 3 All time Why the heck is he so ambitious still at 41? He don't need to fight crawford.
But if Pac did beat crawford I don't think I'd be diplomatic anymore, time for diplomacy would be over.
I d say Pac was goat. Right now he's just a candidate

Ambitious, you mean the talk, he does this all the time mentions the top guys and then goes and fights a Rios or Horn level guy, he only chose Thurman because he was broken every WW wanted Thurman after Lopez showed he is nowhere near his best, Manny has the promotional power and he dived on it and got away from Errol at the same time.

Lets see what happens now and who he actually fights, it might be another cherry and not ambitious at all, just more shady match making.

[Roadblock]

Crawford and Spence combined still don’t bring enough money to the table compared to what Pac brings to the table because Pac is still the cash cow in the welterweight division. No matter which one of them Pac fights, Pac will be the A side and he will get the lion king’s share. That’s why they need to fight each other first to earn a “Pac payday”.

Off course Manny is the A side that dont mean TC and Spence got to fight a tourny to get a Manny fight, while Manny fights B graders with fans saying TC and Errol havent earned a fight with him, thats a pile of BS, he wont be picking TC Errol or GGG its just his normal name dropping he does, I.ll bet on it.

Manny fights who he wants to, nobody is telling Manny you got to fight this guy or that guy, he chooses his opponents out of a number of guys put on the table.

[Bluebird]

Off course Manny is the A side that dont mean TC and Spence got to fight a tourny to get a Manny fight, while Manny fights B graders with fans saying TC and Errol havent earned a fight with him, thats a pile of BS, he wont be picking TC Errol or GGG its just his normal name dropping he does, I.ll bet on it.

Manny fights who he wants to, nobody is telling Manny you got to fight this guy or that guy, he chooses his opponents out of a number of guys put on the table.

Pac, just like Mayweather and Canelo already paid his dues. These 3 fighters don’t have to prove anything no more, they could fight anybody anytime they want, they became world champions when they were very young, that’s why they’re the biggest cash cows of all time. Crawford is almost 33 years old and up to now, he never had a chance to fight an elite fighter. Him and Spence need to cut the BS and fight each other. Although Thurman lost to Pac, I got more respect for him because he already fought Danny Garcia, Porter and Pac.

[Doubledagger]

Its funny because I often forget Manny has the belt. It really doesnt seem like he belongs in this era, although obviously he can perform. I'm not a massive Manny fan, but i dont think I'd like to see him against Spence or Crawford now, i think he should really bow out. He seems to have hes health. I want to see Spence Crawford, thats where its at at Welterweight, but i want Errol to have a warmup or two, so theres no uncertainty about hes condition. I don't know what the hell Garcia was thinking in that fight, on any level, even hes prep. It'd be nice if we could get Spence or Crawford vs Thurman, or even a Brook who's on the slide or Broner. Someone to wake it back up,make the matchup interesting again. In this case, unlike most, the best match probably does need a little time to be built up now.

i get you. The thing about fighting Spence and/or Crawford is that even if Manny somehow wins the amount of punishment he will take might possibly change the quality of his life completely. It's very risky for him, but at the end of the day I think we both agree that if he won't fight then, he MUST drop the belt. He must stop wasting our time he must have enough self respect, respect for the sport, and respect for the fans to not hold up the division.

The funny thing is that even if Thurman had won we would be in this same situation because that guy ain't about fighting Spence or Crawford. He might be more willing now but if he had a belt, and had beaten Manny on top of that, we'd be back to his posing and excuses about how Crawford and Spence have to earn their shot and how they ain't done enough to deserve to share a ring with him.

I think Ugas or Shawn have to go after that belt, it seems like the quickest way to unfiy the PBC side short of Manny taking the Spence fight so that we can finally get the crossover fight with Crawford for undisputed status.

[Doubledagger]

Spence himself said Pac is not afraid to fight anybody. Pac is not an arrogant person, he is very humble and people always think of it as a weakness until it’s fight time. There’s a reason why Nacho (Márquez’s trainer) calls Pac the “devil in the ring” and they will find out why when they fight him. It’s actually Crawford and Spence who are wasting our time by not fighting each other. They should do it first and the winner fights Pac so we could have the undisputed welterweight champion.

How does it make sense for Spence and PBC to go to hell and back over negotiations for the Crawford fight when they can agree a Pac fight in like 30 minutes? Where is the logic in that?

How does the Crawford vs Spence fight make enough money for Top Rank, ESPN, and Crawford AND Al Haymon, PBC, Showtime/Fox, and Man Down Promotions to all get paid without Spence first securing that third belt so that the fight can be for undisputed status?

Your excuses are lame as hell. The PAC vs Spence fight is VERY easy to make.

And why does Spence have to go across the pond to fight Crawford in order to get Manny? Did Broner and Thurman have to do that to fight Manny?

Why are the rules different for Spence?

Deep down you know you talking bs. The fact that you find yourself moving the goalposts for Spence portrays your true motives and concerns.

[Bluebird]

How does it make sense for Spence and PBC to go to hell and back over negotiations for the Crawford fight when they can agree a Pac fight in like 30 minutes? Where is the logic in that?

How does the Crawford vs Spence fight make enough money for Top Rank, ESPN, and Crawford AND Al Haymon, PBC, Showtime/Fox, and Man Down Promotions to all get paid without Spence first securing that third belt so that the fight can be for undisputed status?

Your excuses are lame as hell. The PAC vs Spence fight is VERY easy to make.

And why does Spence have to go across the pond to fight Crawford in order to get Manny? Did Broner and Thurman have to do that to fight Manny?

Why are the rules different for Spence?

Deep down you know you talking bs. The fact that you find yourself moving the goalposts for Spence portrays your true motives and concerns.

If they could do Pac vs Crawford like Arum was saying, there’s no reason why they couldn’t do Spence vs Crawford. Pac already paid his dues, that’s why he could make a lot of money whoever he fights. You could combine both Spence’s and Crawford’s earnings and it still wouldn’t match Pac’s earnings, that’s why they have to pay their dues by fighting each other and the winner would become the next cash cow. After that, it would be the battle of cash cows for the undisputed welterweight champion of the world.