broner vs maidana was a huge mistake

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  • davef
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    #31
    You know what was an even bigger mistake? That Maidana retired after the second fight with Mayweather

    If he stuck around kept disciplined under Garcia he could have held the belts at 147 among the new generation because at the time we had the ghost, danny Garcia,porter,khan thurman (spence was too green) leading the new generation at welterweight I could see that version of maidana beating all of them

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    • Ray*
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      #32
      Originally posted by calemanregreso
      who fed broner to the sharks? whoever fcked up this hard should be fired, probably destroyed broners growth, potential and career, they obviously underestimated the new maidana with the new team
      Under the new PBC guideline as of now, this fight would never had happened. Back in those days PBC were more into competitive match ups with anyone, especially if they believe in their guy. Just look at Tank as of now..

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      • Inspired
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        #33
        it would have been nice to see Maidana vs Matthyse (because they're from the same country). Maidana vs Kell Brook, Maidana vs Porter, (they're almost the same lol). Maidana vs Danny Garcia and Maidana vs Crawford.

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        • Disturbed
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          #34
          Perhaps they overestimated Broner too..

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            #35
            Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
            It didn’t look a bad matchup on paper. Maidana had been beaten decisively by Alexander and looked far from sensational against Josesito Lopez in what I believe was his fight before AB.

            The reality is Broner simply wasn’t as good as people thought he was. Most people assumed he had the skill set and boxing IQ to outbox a somewhat crude yet dangerous fighter like Maidana. He evidently didn’t...
            This is about the top and bottom of it. Broner was decent, nothing more and nothing less, Which has been proven as he lost every time he really stepped up.

            Let’s not forget he had a very close competitive fight with Paulie, who was about six years past his prime at least. If Paulie’s legs were what they were a few years earlier in that fight, he would’ve comfortably beaten Broner.

            That tells you all you really need to know about Broner’s level
            Last edited by deathofaclown; 06-22-2020, 05:21 AM.

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            • Tatabanya
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              #36
              Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
              The reality is Broner simply wasn’t as good as people thought he was.
              This. His best wins before facing Maidana were Antonio De Marco, Gavin Rees and Paulie Malignaggi (the latter not without problems).

              Arguably he might have lost against Daniel Ponce De Leon.

              Maidana did nothing but show Broner's actual level to the world. In fact, after that beating, he started an endless downslide.

              PS myself and deathofaclown posted almost identical thoughts in the space of sixty seconds, unbelievable

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                #37
                Originally posted by deathofaclown
                This is about the top and bottom of it. Broner was decent, nothing more and nothing less, Which has been proven as he lost every time he really stepped up.

                Let’s not forget he had a very close competitive fight with Paulie, who was about six years past his prime at least. If Paulie’s legs were what they were a few years earlier in that fight, he would’ve comfortably beaten Broner.

                That tells you are you really need to know about Broner’s level

                Dont forget ponce de leon too

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                • shenmue
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                  #38
                  What made me laugh on here were the people who were picking broner were saying that he would box and move and be too active and too fast. The broner i watched got hit plenty but by small or feather fisted opponents) was a come forward fighter, not really defensive minded like a Devon or a box and mover like Khan, didn't really let his hands go that much unless he had you hurt and at 147 vs Paulie showed ZERO power.

                  I was convinced that Maidana would Maul him, too much activity, too much power difference between the two and that broner was too easy to hit, me and others on here who picked Maidana were not doing so because we were Maidana fans but because if you looked at both fighters this was a bad match up for Broner, unless he could show something he hadn't shown before, better defence, power at 147, more activity.

                  Broner is lucky he has a good chin, otherwise would have been knocked out for sure, there is still a case for the fight being stopped at some points of the fight, except for me losing my KO bet i am glad it went 12 rounds as i loved every second of it.

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                  • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by deathofaclown
                    This is about the top and bottom of it. Broner was decent, nothing more and nothing less, Which has been proven as he lost every time he really stepped up.

                    Let’s not forget he had a very close competitive fight with Paulie, who was about six years past his prime at least. If Paulie’s legs were what they were a few years earlier in that fight, he would’ve comfortably beaten Broner.

                    That tells you all you really need to know about Broner’s level
                    Yeah man, I was on the hype train until the Paulie fight. That fight really exposed Broner’s limitations. I got off that train just in time...

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                    • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Tatabanya
                      This. His best wins before facing Maidana were Antonio De Marco, Gavin Rees and Paulie Malignaggi (the latter not without problems).

                      Arguably he might have lost against Daniel Ponce De Leon.

                      Maidana did nothing but show Broner's actual level to the world. In fact, after that beating, he started an endless downslide.

                      PS myself and deathofaclown posted almost identical thoughts in the space of sixty seconds, unbelievable
                      People will be accusing you of being alts.

                      And yeah agreed man...

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