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Would Fernando Vargas have beaten Felix Trinidad in a fair fight? (low blows) (Read.)

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  • #21
    No excuses but Vargas had a tough year. Winky - Quartey - Trinidad. No cream puffs there. So all things considered Vargas performed good vs Tito. But he was in with a heavy puncher and he did take nutshots and yeah, that fight ruined him. Harsh but true. Should’ve spaced out those guys over two years not one.

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    • #22
      Low blows are overstated and exaggerated

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      • #23
        Originally posted by BodyBagz View Post
        Low blows are overstated and exaggerated
        Before you answer that question let me kick you in the gonads.
        Last edited by TJ highway; 06-21-2020, 12:36 PM.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by TJ highway View Post
          Before you answer that question let me it you in the gonads.
          While I'm wearing a cup and you wearing a big ol glove ?

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          • #25
            Trinidad is a cheat that got away with ridiculous amount of Low Blows. He should have gotten disqualified in that fight.

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            • #26
              If dude was able to continue, those ''low blows'' weren't an issue.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by punchr View Post
                Where did he say that? Got a link?
                https://********/K2jFRUCiPdI

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by PeasantCrusha View Post
                  Nope... Tito moved UP to 160 and and fought better talent like Hopkins.


                  Let's not get simplistic.

                  Fact is ROIDED Vargas had glass for a chin.

                  Lil Shane who once fought at 135 KOd his ass TWICE.


                  Vargas needs to understand he was a B level hero.
                  147 to 160 is not a big jump for a power puncher to bring his power with him Duran at 135 had power at 160 but than of course he didn’t load wraps

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                  • #29
                    It was a close fight and no one thought it was a bad decision.

                    The scores you’re referencing were 115-113 and the appropriate range for that fight was draw to 7-5 for either guy.

                    Originally posted by just the facts View Post
                    And most boxing insiders thought Winky deserved the decision over Vargas.

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                    • #30
                      Even if you thought Wright deserved the decision over Vargas, you scored it 115-113. It was a very close fight.

                      Wright wasn’t top anything pound for pound because none of the big names would fight him. Vargas has the balls to fight Wright and won. Wright’s next big shot came against Mosley. He shined and became a top three pound for pound fighter.

                      Wright was 39-2 entering the Vargas fight. His losses were to 50-1 Julio Cesar Vasquez in 1994 and a very close loss to a two division undefeated champion in Harry Simon.

                      Also, Wright handed Trinidad his second loss. So until that fight, Trinidad wasn’t viewed as shot. In fact, it was a super fight.

                      So let’s not pretend Wright and Trinidad changed so much after they fought Vargas.

                      Wright would be a better win because he’s bigger than De La Hoya and arguably better even without the size difference.

                      Because of that, it would clearly be more impressive to pull off a win against Wright than winning against De La Hoya.

                      Let’s just look at their common opponents, it proves it’s harder to beat Wright than it is to beat De La Hoya.

                      De La Hoya won a very close and somewhat controversial decision over Ike Quartey. Winky Wright won 9 or 10 rounds against Quartey.

                      De La Hoya knocked out Vargas after a back and forth fight. Wright lost a controversial decision to Vargas.

                      De La Hoya lost both his fights against Shane Mosley, the second one was very close and somewhat controversial.

                      Wright outclassed Mosley in the first fight and won the second fight by close decision. It was not controversial though.

                      De La Hoya lost a close and controversial decision to Felix Trinidad. Wright won every round against Trinidad.

                      De La Hoya was beat up and knocked out by Bernard Hopkins at middleweight. Wright lost a close and controversial decision to Hopkins at light heavyweight.

                      Originally posted by just the facts View Post
                      You're full of shyte. Most thought Winky absolutely deserved the decision vs Vargas and at that time Winky wasn't a top anything p4p. The versions of Winky and Tito were much different than the versions that fought Vargas. If Tito would have beaten Winky, in what world would that have been a better win than DeLaHoya?

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