Would Fernando Vargas have beaten Felix Trinidad in a fair fight? (low blows) (Read.)

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  • Tatabanya
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    #11
    There are levels to this sport, and Vargas was one level below Trinidad.

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    • elfag
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      #12
      If you were a boxer you would want a guy like Naazim Richardson in your corner, he caught two bad hand wraps. And every time he catches them he goes in on them and makes them rewrap like two more times just to get in their head for revenge.

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        People coming with the “Trinidad was on another level“ or “Mosley KOed Vargas” narratives completely forget that Vargas beat Winky Wright. Wright outclassed Mosley and Trinidad and was a top 3 p4p fighter. How was Vargas able to beat Wright if he’s so average?

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        • powershots
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          I think Vargas fought Tito too soon. Richardson and Hopkins already explained that what Tito did with the wraps wasnt illegal. Hopkins said that his right hand was swollen from blocking Tito's left hook even after the re wrap. As far as the low blows, Tito injured his eye in the 3rd round and kept trying to hit Vargas to the body. Vargas was never the same after that fight.

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          • HandsofIron
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            #15
            Felix was the better man that night, there's not much more that can be said.

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            • boliodogs
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              #16
              Trinidad would always beat Vargas. He beat the hell out of him and would do so if they fought 10 times. He was just a much better fighter, end of story. Vargas had a foul cup and he was given recovery time. Vargas only won a round or two of the 12 and he fought a rough dirty fight holding with one hand while hitting with the other. Sorry but the much better man won. Vargas was very good but Tinidad was an all time great.

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              • ShaneMosleySr
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                Again, if Trinidad is so much better, how did Vargas beat top 3 p4p fighter Winky Wright when Wright shut Trinidad out?

                It really bothers me that people ignore that win and focus on Vargas’ losses to Trinidad, Mosley and De La Hoya. You could argue that if any of those three beat Wright, it would have been the best win of their careers.

                Originally posted by boliodogs
                Trinidad would always beat Vargas. He beat the hell out of him and would do so if they fought 10 times. He was just a much better fighter, end of story. Vargas had a foul cup and he was given recovery time. Vargas only won a round or two of the 12 and he fought a rough dirty fight holding with one hand while hitting with the other. Sorry but the much better man won. Vargas was very good but Tinidad was an all time great.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by powershots
                  I think Vargas fought Tito too soon. Richardson and Hopkins already explained that what Tito did with the wraps wasnt illegal. Hopkins said that his right hand was swollen from blocking Tito's left hook even after the re wrap. As far as the low blows, Tito injured his eye in the 3rd round and kept trying to hit Vargas to the body. Vargas was never the same after that fight.
                  Where did he say that? Got a link?

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                  • just the facts
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
                    People coming with the “Trinidad was on another level“ or “Mosley KOed Vargas” narratives completely forget that Vargas beat Winky Wright. Wright outclassed Mosley and Trinidad and was a top 3 p4p fighter. How was Vargas able to beat Wright if he’s so average?
                    And most boxing insiders thought Winky deserved the decision over Vargas.

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                    • just the facts
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
                      Again, if Trinidad is so much better, how did Vargas beat top 3 p4p fighter Winky Wright when Wright shut Trinidad out?

                      It really bothers me that people ignore that win and focus on Vargas’ losses to Trinidad, Mosley and De La Hoya. You could argue that if any of those three beat Wright, it would have been the best win of their careers.
                      You're full of shyte. Most thought Winky absolutely deserved the decision vs Vargas and at that time Winky wasn't a top anything p4p. The versions of Winky and Tito were much different than the versions that fought Vargas. If Tito would have beaten Winky, in what world would that have been a better win than DeLaHoya?

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