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  • Shadoww702
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    #21
    Originally posted by rrayvez
    there's nothing that you've **** down. The obvious anti black sentiment between you and the other makes in obvious that you have some sort of issue. With Canelo, aren't you a fan of his? Should you know which fights he had catchweights for? Angulo, Lara, Kirkland, Khan and Chavez Jr were all catchweight fights and Canelo had rehydration clauses for jacobs, fielding and kovalev.
    Jacobs purposely MISSED his rehydration clause but nice try!

    Khan??? That actually HELPED Khan more. Brook should of done the same with GGG instead of getting his eye brook.

    Kovalov??? Man you have no shame!

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    • Thuglife Nelo
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      #22
      Originally posted by rrayvez
      there's nothing that you've **** down. The obvious anti black sentiment between you and the other makes in obvious that you have some sort of issue. With Canelo, aren't you a fan of his? Should you know which fights he had catchweights for? Angulo, Lara, Kirkland, Khan and Chavez Jr were all catchweight fights and Canelo had rehydration clauses for jacobs, fielding and kovalev.
      Lol YOU brought up Mexicans feeling insecure about PPV or not stepping it up yet Marquez and Ruiz did things that were “stepped up.” Had to shut you down and you came back crying!

      LARA's 155+ fights...

      158 - Lara vs Maslov
      154.5 - Lara vs Gross
      155 - Lara vs Gray
      155 - Lara vs Boone
      155 - Lara vs Varela
      155.5 - Lara vs Perez
      156.5 - Lara vs Correa
      155 - Lara vs Perez
      156.5 - Lara vs Hearns
      154.5 - Lara vs Hernandez
      155 - Lara vs Alvarez


      KIRKLAND's 155+ fights...

      163 - Kirkland vs Castillo
      159 - Kirkland vs Estrada
      155 - Kirkland vs Toribio
      155 - Kirkland vs Lyell
      155.7 - Kirkland vs Duran
      154.5 - Kirkland Said Salem
      157 - Kirkland vs Cortes
      156 - Kirkland vs Vera
      162.5 - Kirkland vs Gibbs
      163.5 - Kirkland vs Berrio
      158 - Kirkland vs Ishida
      160 - Kirkland vs Sharpe
      157.5 - Kirkland vs Hloros
      155.4 - Kirkland vs Tapia
      155 - Kirkland vs Alvarez

      ANGULO's 155+ fights...

      156.5 - Angulo vs Padron
      157.5 - Angulo vs Taylor
      158 - Angulo vs Stanislajevic
      157 - Angulo vs Mada
      156 - Angulo vs Gonzalez
      155 - Angulo vs Rosado
      154.5 - Angulo vs Silva
      154.5 - Angulo vs Alvarez
      162 - Angulo vs Rosa
      162 - Angulo vs Raines
      163 - Angulo vs Munoz
      164.5 - Angulo vs Hernandez

      Khan could only fight at 155 for the Middleweight title unless you think 160 would’ve been more appropriate?

      Chavez Jr. trained hard with Nacho Beristain to make 164 and looked the best physique ever.

      That’s 5 so far!

      Jacobs skipped Rehydration “limits” nor cares for penalties since he made 15million. If GBP were insecure about Jacobs he would’ve gotten a smaller purse and less likely to ditch the morning limit!

      Fielding was allowed to weigh in as much as possible in the ring he just could not surpass the morning 10lb morning rule! Same rule that the IBF uses! Lol.

      Kovalev? Same thing! Because the IBF practice morning limits means the logic is public domain!

      You made it all too easy! Shut you down twice!

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      • Robi13
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        #23

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        • buge
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          #24
          Originally posted by LoadedWraps
          I disagree with him on that fight, the Fury/Frazier one, and Valero/Manny.

          Good read all around though.
          it was Fury/Foreman (and Wlad/Frazier)

          I think Fury dominates any version of Foreman though. Foreman was too slow & lumbering/unathletic to deal with Fury. Foreman also wouldn't be the bigger man, which he used as an advantage to try to bully smaller HWs.

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          • DeeMoney
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            #25
            As far as ring walks go, cant leave out Tyson v Spinks- with just the clanging chains and iron sounds. Also RJj rapping himself down to the ring.

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            • rrayvez
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              #26
              Originally posted by Mexican Bidness
              Lol YOU brought up Mexicans feeling insecure about PPV or not stepping it up yet Marquez and Ruiz did things that were “stepped up.” Had to shut you down and you came back crying!

              LARA's 155+ fights...

              158 - Lara vs Maslov
              154.5 - Lara vs Gross
              155 - Lara vs Gray
              155 - Lara vs Boone
              155 - Lara vs Varela
              155.5 - Lara vs Perez
              156.5 - Lara vs Correa
              155 - Lara vs Perez
              156.5 - Lara vs Hearns
              154.5 - Lara vs Hernandez
              155 - Lara vs Alvarez


              KIRKLAND's 155+ fights...

              163 - Kirkland vs Castillo
              159 - Kirkland vs Estrada
              155 - Kirkland vs Toribio
              155 - Kirkland vs Lyell
              155.7 - Kirkland vs Duran
              154.5 - Kirkland Said Salem
              157 - Kirkland vs Cortes
              156 - Kirkland vs Vera
              162.5 - Kirkland vs Gibbs
              163.5 - Kirkland vs Berrio
              158 - Kirkland vs Ishida
              160 - Kirkland vs Sharpe
              157.5 - Kirkland vs Hloros
              155.4 - Kirkland vs Tapia
              155 - Kirkland vs Alvarez

              ANGULO's 155+ fights...

              156.5 - Angulo vs Padron
              157.5 - Angulo vs Taylor
              158 - Angulo vs Stanislajevic
              157 - Angulo vs Mada
              156 - Angulo vs Gonzalez
              155 - Angulo vs Rosado
              154.5 - Angulo vs Silva
              154.5 - Angulo vs Alvarez
              162 - Angulo vs Rosa
              162 - Angulo vs Raines
              163 - Angulo vs Munoz
              164.5 - Angulo vs Hernandez

              Khan could only fight at 155 for the Middleweight title unless you think 160 would’ve been more appropriate?

              Chavez Jr. trained hard with Nacho Beristain to make 164 and looked the best physique ever.

              That’s 5 so far!

              Jacobs skipped Rehydration “limits” nor cares for penalties since he made 15million. If GBP were insecure about Jacobs he would’ve gotten a smaller purse and less likely to ditch the morning limit!

              Fielding was allowed to weigh in as much as possible in the ring he just could not surpass the morning 10lb morning rule! Same rule that the IBF uses! Lol.

              Kovalev? Same thing! Because the IBF practice morning limits means the logic is public domain!

              You made it all too easy! Shut you down twice!
              so if we're going by your argument then cool
              Marquez fights that were higher than 144 pounds = vs Pacquiao 2 times, Bradley, Alvarado.
              Canelo fights under 152 = every one of the first 36 fights of his career. So now we're right back to square one aren't we?

              Now for the rest of your excuses. Which I find funny because you had no problem taking a dump on mayweathers catch weight wins but are bending over backward so far that you can lick your own ass to defend Saul's catchweights.

              Khan had no business being a canelo opponent for a mw title in the first place. He wasn't even a champion at 147 & hadn't been champion of any weight for about 5 yrs. So the same exact scenario you used about mayweather dragging up Marquez is more than applicable to poor little amir. We all know who benefitted from that catchweight and it wasn't khan.

              Chavez jr- you're really going to argue that he wasn't a weight drained zombie at 163.5 pounds? His lowest weight in 5 yrs? You sound crazy. The guy could barely move in the ring that fight.

              Jacobs - skipped the rehydration clause but still had to limit his next day weight to an extent because he was being fined per pound.

              Fielding - didn't fight for the ibf title. It was for the wba regular title, therefore, Canelo implemented his own rehydration clause as the A side. The same thing you were complaining about with mayweather using his A side status to his advantage as it has to do with weight.

              Kovalev - the fight was for the WBO title, not the ibf so once again Canelo implemented his own rehydration clause as the A side.

              You really should've just kept your mouth shut because now you've just made yourself look ****** by talking out of both sides of your mouth. You're now 0-2. You're officially out of Bidness.

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              • rrayvez
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                #27
                Originally posted by Shadoww702
                Jacobs purposely MISSED his rehydration clause but nice try!

                Khan??? That actually HELPED Khan more. Brook should of done the same with GGG instead of getting his eye brook.

                Kovalov??? Man you have no shame!
                jacobs purposely skipped Canelo's self imposed clause but was it still not a clause that Canelo implemented as the A side?

                Khan - it was a catchweight fight chosen by Canelo. Who do you think really felt more comfortable at that weight? The guy who had that exact weight named after him by fans "Canelo weight" or the little guy who actually only had 3 fights at 147 and spent most of his career as a light weight & junior welter?

                Kovalev - was a rehydration clause not implemented? Is the point we're discussing not about A sides using their power to have an advantage with weight one way or another? All I'm saying is, if the other guy can discredit mayweathers 2 wins that had catchweights, then I can do a much better job dissecting canelos wins where his A side status was used to dictate weight demands.

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                • Thuglife Nelo
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by rrayvez
                  so if we're going by your argument then cool
                  Marquez fights that were higher than 144 pounds = vs Pacquiao 2 times, Bradley, Alvarado.
                  Canelo fights under 152 = every one of the first 36 fights of his career. So now we're right back to square one aren't we?

                  Now for the rest of your excuses. Which I find funny because you had no problem taking a dump on mayweathers catch weight wins but are bending over backward so far that you can lick your own ass to defend Saul's catchweights.

                  Khan had no business being a canelo opponent for a mw title in the first place. He wasn't even a champion at 147 & hadn't been champion of any weight for about 5 yrs. So the same exact scenario you used about mayweather dragging up Marquez is more than applicable to poor little amir. We all know who benefitted from that catchweight and it wasn't khan.

                  Chavez jr- you're really going to argue that he wasn't a weight drained zombie at 163.5 pounds? His lowest weight in 5 yrs? You sound crazy. The guy could barely move in the ring that fight.

                  Jacobs - skipped the rehydration clause but still had to limit his next day weight to an extent because he was being fined per pound.

                  Fielding - didn't fight for the ibf title. It was for the wba regular title, therefore, Canelo implemented his own rehydration clause as the A side. The same thing you were complaining about with mayweather using his A side status to his advantage as it has to do with weight.

                  Kovalev - the fight was for the WBO title, not the ibf so once again Canelo implemented his own rehydration clause as the A side.

                  You really should've just kept your mouth shut because now you've just made yourself look ****** by talking out of both sides of your mouth. You're now 0-2. You're officially out of Bidness.
                  lol!

                  Kovalev has done 10lb morning rules BEFORE! If you agree to fight while acknowledging the 10lb morning rule means boxers become wimps in that FANS defend a boxers' dotted line approval.

                  You're even being paradoxical to your own premise. If you're aiming high to discredit fights regarding weights then why did you toot your horn about Mexican fans being skurrred about PPV on Mexican Holidays while you said Floyd ''dominated'' with stipulations you're crying about! Make up your mind bruh! Mexican Bidness!!

                  I like the part when you said Mexicans ''failed'' yet I showed you Marquez and Ruiz pics of their victories. Put some more salt on them fries vato loco!

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                  • Thuglife Nelo
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by rrayvez
                    jacobs purposely skipped Canelo's self imposed clause but was it still not a clause that Canelo implemented as the A side?

                    Khan - it was a catchweight fight chosen by Canelo. Who do you think really felt more comfortable at that weight? The guy who had that exact weight named after him by fans "Canelo weight" or the little guy who actually only had 3 fights at 147 and spent most of his career as a light weight & junior welter?

                    Kovalev - was a rehydration clause not implemented? Is the point we're discussing not about A sides using their power to have an advantage with weight one way or another? All I'm saying is, if the other guy can discredit mayweathers 2 wins that had catchweights, then I can do a much better job dissecting canelos wins where his A side status was used to dictate weight demands.
                    These fighters just copied Mayweather's signature for 144 Marquez to 146 last minute or for 152 against Canelo. Don't discredit Floyd bruH!

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                    • rrayvez
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Mexican Bidness
                      lol!

                      Kovalev has done 10lb morning rules BEFORE! If you agree to fight while acknowledging the 10lb morning rule means boxers become wimps in that FANS defend a boxers' dotted line approval.

                      You're even being paradoxical to your own premise. If you're aiming high to discredit fights regarding weights then why did you toot your horn about Mexican fans being skurrred about PPV on Mexican Holidays while you said Floyd ''dominated'' with stipulations you're crying about! Make up your mind bruh! Mexican Bidness!!

                      I like the part when you said Mexicans ''failed'' yet I showed you Marquez and Ruiz pics of their victories. Put some more salt on them fries vato loco!
                      look at you, now you're all over the place. You're trying to save some dignity because you've clearly been embarrassed so you're jumping from subject to subject. Hold your loss like a man and stop whimpering. I've ethered you with your own logic
                      Last edited by rrayvez; 06-20-2020, 06:31 PM.

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