What (if anything) makes Tom Schwarz and Otto Wallin "poor opposition"?

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    What (if anything) makes Tom Schwarz and Otto Wallin "poor opposition"?

    This is the opinion we often heard expressed by Tyson Fury haters. But what is so bad about these two opponents? Both solid, European-level opponents, both with potential to go on and become World contenders. Both were also unbeaten. Even as tune-up fights Fury got criticism from some quarters.

    Can someone rank Schwarz and Wallin alongside the following fighters, who got World title shots in recent times. Are they better or worse wins? Why?

    Dominic Breazeale
    Johann Duhaupas
    Eric Molina
    Luis Ortiz
    Artur Szpilka
    Carlos Takam

    Can anyone tell me what this list have acheived that make them much better opponents than Tom Schwarz and Otto Wallin? Or is it just hype?

    If you trash Schwarz and Wallin, why?
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    You forgot the golden rule of boxing.

    A HW boxer only becomes a "top 10 opponent" after AJ or Whyte has beaten them.

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      #3
      Originally posted by denium
      You forgot the golden rule of boxing.

      A HW boxer only becomes a "top 10 opponent" after AJ or Whyte has beaten them.
      Literally bro, all those fighters I listed, all they have done that Wallin and Schwarz hadn't, is lose to a string of more widely known fighters. Other than that they haven't acheived anything more.

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      • Tyistall
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        You are kidding right? Schwarz is in trouble for beating up a woman. And Wallin may have Coronavirus. Nether one of them has a single recognizable name on their resumes except for Fury. Currently Schwarz is rated 34th in the world while Wallin is rated 83rd. Fury fans are trying their best to make these 2 seem like credible opponents but in fact, they are both on the level of B- sparring partners at best. Imagine the flack that AJ would be getting right now if these were 2 of his opponents within the last year. Furys resume is as bad as Wilder's and just like Wilder, Fury will be exposed within the next year by one of AJ, Whyte, DuBois or another top ten guy...if he actually fights them and not more bums

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          #5
          Originally posted by Tyistall
          You are kidding right? Schwarz is in trouble for beating up a woman. And Wallin may have Coronavirus. Nether one of them has a single recognizable name on their resumes except for Fury. Currently Schwarz is rated 34th in the world while Wallin is rated 83rd. Fury fans are trying their best to make these 2 seem like credible opponents but in fact, they are both on the level of B- sparring partners at best. Imagine the flack that AJ would be getting right now if these were 2 of his opponents within the last year. Furys resume is as bad as Wilder's and just like Wilder, Fury will be exposed within the next year by one of AJ, Whyte, DuBois or another top ten guy...if he actually fights them and not more bums
          So what have the names I listed acheived? What names have they beaten? What accolades and accomplishments in Pro boxing do they have?

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          • *TonyMontana*
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            #6
            Their shlt resumes

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              #7
              Originally posted by W1LL
              So what have the names I listed acheived? What names have they beaten? What accolades and accomplishments in Pro boxing do they have?
              Wallin will beat a lot of "Top 10" HWs, no doubt about it, he clearly passes the eye test.

              He'd smash a bum like Breazeale to bits.

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                #8
                Originally posted by *TonyMontana*
                Their shlt resumes
                How are the resumes of those I listed any better? Could you point to specific victories that make them stand out?

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                • OnlytheTruth
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                  Originally posted by denium
                  Wallin will beat a lot of "Top 10" HWs, no doubt about it, he clearly passes the eye test.

                  He'd smash a bum like Breazeale to bits.
                  I think they need to pass a boxing test, rather than an 'eye test', you big dumb b1tch.

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                  • Thuglife Nelo
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                    W1LL and Denium crying about Fury’s opposition yet cried even more when Canelo fought Fielding or Smith...

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