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Well floyd fans didn't think floyd had to fight thurman and spence.
But as usual you twist my meanings anyway. I never said he's not supposed to fight people in his weight class. I was referring to 2 specific people in the weight class. The main reasons he's not supposed to be fighting these guys is because he's at an age where he's not supposed to beat them.
but he will get credit for doing it. No need to fight ggg. Stop trying to catch me out, stop being saltyLast edited by hugh grant; 06-15-2020, 06:18 PM.Comment
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Nah, too many other ATG who did some even crazier shît back in the 40’s and 60’s!
But he would surpass Floyd’s legacy that’s for sure with a win like that even though Golovkin’s past his prime!
Put it like this...
He beats Crawford I would have him #22 all time, currently he’s #26 all time IMO!
If he somehow miraculously is able to beat both THEN he’s in the top 5 all time because that would literally be unheard of in the history of boxing when a small for his division all time great in his 7th weight class while past his prime beat a prime undefeated future HOF 3 division champ who’s in the top p4p list and a past prime once beaten middleweight champ who's stilll a top 2 in his division!
I can’t fathom it so much that I would probably quit watching boxing for a long time if Pacquiao were to accomplish that but it’s extremely likely he loses to either Bud or Ggg!Comment
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No Its Pacquiao telling Roach, Roach actually wants nothing to do with this fight but at this point Pac wants 9 weights classes and is in it for the legacy plus time is running out for him, he has a year left tops due to his political aspirations.
at 2021 Pac is done boxing so why not go out with a ****? 160 WITH HYDRATION clause is possible. Pac will come in at 149-150 with GGG at 160.
GGG has slowed down enough Pac has a shot. This would be a pay out fight for GGG as well because this would make bank.Comment
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Very risky for Manny. If he wins then it will be a good victory to bolster his legacy though. I really don't see this fight being particularly necessary for either fighter. Pac is already an ATG and needs to prove nothing. His legacy is already assured with or without a victory vs GGG. I guess the biggest prize for Manny would be a 9th division? I wouldn't recommend that Manny take this fight but his life is not mine and he knows his goals better than I do. I would LOVE to see Manny take on 1. Crawford, 2. Spence, 3. GGG, or 4. Loma. Hard to reconcile the weight differences between 3 and 4 but if they can find a way to make it fair for all parties involved I think it would be highly entertaining as well as lucrativeLast edited by Gamer30168; 06-15-2020, 08:46 PM.Comment
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Pacquiao Watch: Golovkin ain’t no mountain high
By Edwin Espejo -June 15, 2020
Long time Pacquiao coach Freddie Roach stirred a flurry of conversation when he said his former ward may go for middleweight ****er Gennady Golovkin instead of a unification bout with Terence Crawford.
At this stage of his career, Sen. Emmanuel Paquiao has nothing to prove. Win or loss against anybody will not soil or add up to his legacy.
At 41, Pacquiao is rather old to be still boxing competitively. But Pacquiao is no ordinary boxer. He is an athletic specimen that comes once in a lifetime in a sport that is supposed to be dominated by guys in their mid or late 20s.
Sen. Manny Pacquiao will have to dig deep in his reservoir of skills if he chooses to fight middleweight Gennady Golovkin and hopes to capture a mind-bogling 9th world boxing title in as many weight divisions.PHOTO BY EDINW ESPEJO
Boxing is a brutal contact sport where the greats extend their legacies into their early 30s before slowing down and finally bowing out – many overextending their welcome.
Like many greats that came before him, Pacquiao belongs to the old school of professional boxers who fought and dominated the best in their division. The greats of yesteryears fought like it was the last fight of their lives.
Pacquiao, today, is definitely already past his prime. But he is still very competitive. He may no longer be as tireless as the energy bunny, no longer as quick and as sharp as the Pacquiao that ought the likes of Marco Antonio Barrera, Erik Morales (2nd fight), David Diaz, Miguel Cotto and Antonio Margarito nor the devastating puncher who KOed Ricky Hatton in a spectacular fashion.
But he is still good enough to beat the likes of Adrien Broner and Keith Thurman who are in their prime.
Golovkin poses a threatening challenge to Pacquiao.
The Kazakhstan-born middleweight champion possesses an excellent record of 40 wins, 35 of them inside the distance, with only 1 loss and a draw to spoil a record. He is likewise the heavier boxer at a full pledged middleweight between 154 to 160 pounds (70 to 73 kilos). Golovkin is durable. He has not been stopped. He is younger by 3 years at 38.
Pacquiao is now 41 and a small welterweight (147-lb limit). He has suffered 7 defeats, 3 of them by knockouts of the full count variety. The heaviest he fought was when he subdued Antonio Margarito to claim his record 8th world title at a catchweight of 150 pounds for the latter’s154-lb title.
Going after Golovkin is dangerous.
Pacquiao has been into many dangerous challenges before. He fought the heavier Barrera, Morales, Diaz, Cotto, Oscar de la Hoya and Margarito, all of them except Margarito fell by KO from the Filipino boxing great.
But Pacquiao was undoubtedly in his prime when he fought this array of boxers, many of them candidates for Hall of Fame enshrinement.
Will past-his-prime Pacquiao be able to pull off an upset of sort against Golovkin who himself may also be slowing down?
Golovkin’s most notable opponent is Saul Canelo Alvarez who he fought to a draw and lost in a rematch by unanimous decision.
Should he decide to go for another record which he himself established, Pacquiao will forever etch his name in the annals of boxing as being the first and probably will only be the 9-division world champion.
That record will probably not be broken – ever. His collection of 8 world titles is already a very tall order to top or even equal. And only Pacquiao has the chance to topple it, now.
On paper, a Golovkin-Pacquiao header is a mismatch. It is preposterous to even suggest that Pacquiao will beat Golovkin, given the latter’s bulk and heft, strength and length.
At 5’10 ½, Golovkin will be the tallest and the heaviest opponent for Pacquiao since Margarito who stood at 5’11”. Based on record, the 38-year old Golovkin will be the scariest puncher Pacquiao will ever face.
But Golovkin is not without his soft and weak spots.
Golovkin has not faced a quick opponent in Pacquiao even at a diminished speed.
The Kazakhs’ punches are long and he has the tendencies to lower his left hand when lunging with his rights, his killer hand, making him hittable with Manny’s quicker counterpunches. Golovkin does not possess the fastest feet and will find Pacquiao a harder target to hit. However, he has very potent left and right hooks to the body.
Against Golovkin, Pacquiao will be giving up 3 inches in reach and 5 inches in height. At weight limit of 160, Pacquiao will be hard press to knock down or even hurt Golovkin. Pacquiao also has not been knocking down foes beyond the 147-lb limit.
Pacquiao can be hurt. And he had been knocked down several times and in those, he was knocked out cold three times.
The key will be stamina and pace. If Pacquiao can still move around the ring and avoid being cornered or pushed on the ropes, he can punish Golovkin with his speed. Golovkin will have to be in his top shape to be able to keep pace with Pacquiao over 12 rounds.
But first, Pacquio will have to establish early that he can hurt Golovkin. He has to make Golovkin respect his power. Otherwise, Golovkin will just plod his way inside until Pacquiao is forced to commit into a brawl.
In this fight, speed will be the key. Pacquiao will have to do a repeat of his performances against de la Hoya and Margarito – two tall fighters who do not posses the foot speed and the counterpunching skills necessary to catch Pacquiao.
The biggest question will be: Does Pacquiao still possess even half that the speed to beat Golovkin?Comment
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You know when its a fanboy article about Manny when they never mention a CW or that a drained fighter was the bigger man, they ALWAYS leave this out.Comment
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Would be incredibeComment
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Of course you're not interested in talking about floyd. You don't like questioning his dubious behaviour and actions do you and people calling you out in them .
Ok, yeh I'll say he's not supposed to fight people in.his weight class if it makes you happy. He's supposed to fight people like gg G as the standards for him are higher. Is this what you are getting at?
I have to try mind read you as you don't give much away do you?Comment
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