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  • James Hunt
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    #11
    Originally posted by Tatabanya
    Whyte was cleared by UKAD for the Rivas pre-fight test, but he's a steroid user as well.

    Most everybody is a PED user nowadays, there's no good or evil in there. You can't compete at boxing's top level without juice of some kind.
    The best PED users indicator is the type of testing they use for their fights, if any. As far as I know, Whyte's been tested under 3 different protocols:
    1. UKAD,
    2.WBC-CBP/VADA/365 lottery and
    3. additional (paid by fighters) extensive VADA testing during the camp (10-14 weeks before the fight).

    Gyps Boar is currently only tested under WBC-CBP/VADA/365 lottery. Same goes for One-trick Phony.
    Now you tell me.

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      #12
      Originally posted by James Hunt
      The best PED users indicator is the type of testing they use for their fights, if any. As far as I know, Whyte's been tested under 3 different protocols:
      1. UKAD,
      2.WBC-CBP/VADA/365 lottery and
      3. additional (paid by fighters) extensive VADA testing during the camp (10-14 weeks before the fight).

      Gyps Boar is currently only tested under WBC-CBP/VADA/365 lottery. Same goes for One-trick Phony.
      Now you tell me.
      I'm not pointing a finger at Whyte, nor defending others. I'm just convinced that there are ways to cheat even in presence of apparently strict testing. And also, given the huge money involved, that many positive tests are not officially reported.

      As I said, you can't compete at those levels just via "hard work and dedication". For sure the latter help, though - Whyte would be much better if he cared about that rather than looking like a wannabe obese.

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        #13
        The bigger puncher is the one who can take the other guys punches better. Fury has proven to be more durable and able to withstand big shots better than Joshua, who folded like a lawn chair vs Ruiz.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Jab jab boom
          The bigger puncher is the one who can take the other guys punches better. Fury has proven to be more durable and able to withstand big shots better than Joshua, who folded like a lawn chair vs Ruiz.
          Fury arse-kissers are like Fury himself, funny people, good for a laughter. They are always inventing new illogical definition of known terms. For instance, for this "expert" in boxing a decent chin equate to a better punch. Hilarious.

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            #15
            As soon as 6ft9 280lb Kronk Fury hits AJ on the jaw, he'll go down like a sack of spuds.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Jab jab boom
              The bigger puncher is the one who can take the other guys punches better. Fury has proven to be more durable and able to withstand big shots better than Joshua, who folded like a lawn chair vs Ruiz.
              That is just ******.

              "The man who punches hardest is the man who can take the biggest punch" (essentially what you are saying).

              Utter nonsense. Usually when people try to be profound they say something that makes more sense the more you think about it. They don't just smash nonsense together and hope everybody is too confused to notice.
              Last edited by Angeljuice; 06-13-2020, 08:32 AM.

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                #17
                Originally posted by denium
                As soon as 6ft9 280lb Kronk Fury hits AJ on the jaw, he'll go down like a sack of spuds.
                Doubtful, Fury genuinely does have powder puff punches in most of his fights.
                He beat up Wilder, but Wilder has no defence or boxing knowledge whatsoever.
                AJ is a far harder puncher than Fury, ask anybody who's sparred with them both.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Angeljuice
                  That is just ******.

                  "The man who punches hardest is the man who can take the biggest punch".

                  Utter nonsense. Usually when people try to be profound they say something that makes more sense the more you think about it. They don't just smash nonsense together and hope everybody is too confused to notice.
                  well Joshua fans have shown themselves to not be the brightest bunch, and you are clearly no exception. Let me break it down for you in a way that even a simple inbred such as yourself can understand... The point is, who can punch with more force is irrelevant if one boxer can take their opponents power better than the other. We've seen fury dropped hard yet come back and reclaim control of the fight. We've seen Joshua get hurt and turn into a kitten who wanted to run away from the ring as fast as he can. Therefore, whether or not Joshua can punch harder than fury won't mean much when they fight as the one more likely to get stopped would be Joshua.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Angeljuice
                    Doubtful, Fury genuinely does have powder puff punches in most of his fights.
                    He beat up Wilder, but Wilder has no defence or boxing knowledge whatsoever.
                    AJ is a far harder puncher than Fury, ask anybody who's sparred with them both.
                    Dave Allen has sparred both and he says Fury is the bigger puncher.

                    Fury doesn't sit down on his punches and prefers to box his way to easy decisions, but if he does decide to sit down on them, then he hit plenty hard enough, as evidenced by him smashing Wilder to bits. He's now trained at the Kronk gym and has now realised that he can add weight and still be fitter and faster than everyone else.

                    Kronk Fury is an absolute beast. Maybe AJ does hit slightly harder, but it won't make much a difference in the fight, Fury has proved that he can take flush right hands from monster punchers like Wlad & Wilder & survive, and he has amazing powers of recovery.

                    AJ on the other hand, seems to get hurt every fight, and when hurt, it takes him rounds to recover, and he got dominated and stopped 12 months ago by an unranked fat late replacement.

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                    • Jab jab boom
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Boxviewer
                      Fury arse-kissers are like Fury himself, funny people, good for a laughter. They are always inventing new illogical definition of known terms. For instance, for this "expert" in boxing a decent chin equate to a better punch. Hilarious.
                      well it's no surprise that you've named yourself boxing viewer as clearly, viewing boxing is the closest you've ever been to stepping in a ring. Bottom line is if 2 guys face each other, punching power is rendered irrelevant if 1 guy is durable and can take a punch while the other guy mentally breaks once hurt and then quits.

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