Comments Thread For: Manny Pacquiao Might Fight Golovkin, Freddie Roach Says

[Oregonian]

Clottey was not a catchweight, nor was Oscar. Oscar was the A-side

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Clottey was coming off a loss just like Mosley too.
Broner was coming off a draw and two losses.
Mathysse was far removed from being a WW contender and nobody knew of Algieri or Horn before they fought PAC.

Last time Oscar fought at WW was in 2002. His fight with Floyd was at 154. Go to YouTube and listen to how Roach explains why he must give PAC all the advantages (catch weight and rehydration clauses).

You either don’t know shït about boxing or are just a good old idol worshipping Filipino

[alexjust]

Roach sees the same thing many of us do.

GGG is 38 years old and declining rapidly, he thinks GGG would be ripe for the taking.

They would also pull some dehydration clause crap, so I think GGG wont go for it and rather fight some soviet auto mechanic for his DAZN guarantee money.

GGG had 8 fights in the last 4 years.

His only definitive wins are:

Dominic Wade
Kell Brook
Vanes
Steve Rolls


His actual losses, counted or not, are:

Jacobs
Canelo
Canelo
Derevyanchenko

That is an atrocious record, 4-4 for an alleged champion. Roach knows hes got another Margo on his hands here, although a bit less skilled but even larger framed.

I read your list of GGG'S losses. Do you smoke weed on Mondays?

[strykr619]

So, are you new to the sport? Emmanuel Steward was also complaining that Pac is stacking his handwrap. He also placed twisted tapes between his knuckles, the same twisted tapes Freddy complained about against Oscar De la Hoya. Pac got away with it, because they fought in Texas I believe and out there they weren't too experience in big style fights. There are videos on YouTube to prove it; if I was on my computer I would have embedded it.

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They fought in Vegas.

[megas30]

There is no such thing as a catchweight of 147, that is at a full welterweight, Dela Hoya offered Pacquiao the 147 fight and Pacquiao agreed considering he was a 130 pounder just few months before and got his ass whooped.

A welterweight fight is one way of looking at it. But, with context, it was a catchweight fight. It was neither man's division and neither man had a belt there. Oscar was accommodating Manny at that weight.

Clottey had a rehydration clause, not a catchweight.

Again, Context! A rehydration clause is another way of the saying, "i want you to weaken you at this weight, and i want to disadvantage you."

Would you prefer "weight manipulation" to "catchweight"?

[megas30]

They fought in Vegas.

Do your research. The fight was held in the AT&T stadium in Texas.

[strykr619]

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Clottey was coming off a loss just like Mosley too.
Broner was coming off a draw and two losses.
Mathysse was far removed from being a WW contender and nobody knew of Algieri or Horn before they fought PAC.

Last time Oscar fought at WW was in 2002. His fight with Floyd was at 154. Go to YouTube and listen to how Roach explains why he must give PAC all the advantages (catch weight and rehydration clauses).

You either don’t know shït about boxing or are just a good old idol worshipping Filipino

LOL typical revisionist historian. Oscar WAS THE A SIDE, everyone (sport pundits and experts) were saying that this was easy picking for Oscar....

Your the one here who doesn't know **** about boxing

[Thraxox]

CW is a contracted weight, meaning if you have a weight clause of any king written into the contract its a CW.

You can have a CW at any weight, say a LW fights a WW at 140 its a CW. Oscar had to make 147 or no fight and it was written in the contract. he had not made that weight in over 10 yrs fighting from 154 to 160.

You dont know what the hell you are talking about. There is no such thing as a catchweight of a full fledged weight class. Just like Canelo vs Kovalev was not a catchweight, despite having rehydration clause, you are making stuff up.

[Roadblock]

You dont know what the hell you are talking about. There is no such thing as a catchweight of a full fledged weight class. Just like Canelo vs Kovalev was not a catchweight, despite having rehydration clause, you are making stuff up.

You are parroting media terms Catch Weight,when the legal terms is a Contracted Weight fight with weight clauses written into the contract.

By your theory there can never be a CW because a division is from one division to the next division, 140 to 147 147 to 154 154 to 160 from strawweight to HW every digit is inside a division scale.

So how do you have a CW , when its a contracted weight not the normal of either guy. when there are penalties for not making weight above the standard commission penalties .

It is you that dont know what you are talking about.

[Emperor Trump]

Funny thing is Pacquiao despite being in far more wars and being older has aged better in the ring.

[Oregonian]

LOL typical revisionist historian. Oscar WAS THE A SIDE, everyone (sport pundits and experts) were saying that this was easy picking for Oscar....

Your the one here who doesn't know **** about boxing

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No where in my post did I say Oscar was the B side.
We all know that he was the A side. Boxing fans know that Oscar was the A side.

My post as well as other boxing purists are not making that an issue. Do you get that? Do you understand that?

The 147 limit was advantageous for PAC so was the 145 Ibs weight for Cotto so was the 150Ibs weight for Margarito.

PAC also tried that shït with Marquez in 2012 and the fight was at 144 and he got blasted out. Idiots like you call it a lucky punch ignoring the fact that PAC was dropped by the same punch in the third round of the same fight.

If PAC was so great, why not fight all those guys at the actual weight of the division?
If PAC was fighting Cotto at 145, was he going to fight Floyd at 145 too or 147?


Let’s not forget the bums he fought along the way (Freaking Rios, Broner, Mathysse, Vargas, Horn, Algieri, David Diaz etc) including Clottey and Moskeyvwho we’re coming off losses. Mosley had literally just lost to Floyd.

You anus licking morons would have a field day of Floyd had fought Rios or Mathysse. If Floyd was to fight Thurman today you idiots will probably shït your pants even though PAC did that with Mosley.
Excuses excuses excuses!!!