If Derevyanchenko is a bum (according to NSB), what's that make Kavaliauskas?

[Ritz Kola]

Ok, so when Crawford's mando was Danny Swift and Crawford refused it, what's that make Danny?

This is easier than I thought. Danny WAS NEVER THE MANDATORY FOR THE WBO. NEVER. Danny never even called Crawford out. Danny and his team are on camera making it clear they aren't interested in Crawford. Bob Arum is on camera making it clear he's reached out multiple times to make the fight and the Garcia's weren't interested.

Something isn't right. You fight mandos happily UNTIL one of them is a world class fighter, then you complain he wants too much money and turn around and give that money to a guy who wasn't the mando and nobody asked for.

Fake news. See above.


At least with G, he fought a tough, durable opponent with a solid record and decent names on the resume even in loss.

That is a lie. Lil g avoided tough competition. He outright and actively avoids tough competition. Drev was a cherrypick. I already explained it we're not going back n forth because you refuse to acknowledge and tried to deflect and make up nonsense about Crawford as a distraction.

Ok, so when Crawford's mando was Danny Swift and Crawford refused it, what's that make Danny?

This is easier than I thought. Danny WAS NEVER THE MANDATORY FOR THE WBO. NEVER. Danny never even called Crawford out. Danny and his team are on camera making it clear they aren't interested in Crawford. Bob Arum is on camera making it clear he's reached out multiple times to make the fight and the Garcia's weren't interested.

Something isn't right. You fight mandos happily UNTIL one of them is a world class fighter, then you complain he wants too much money and turn around and give that money to a guy who wasn't the mando and nobody asked for.

Fake news. See above.


At least with G, he fought a tough, durable opponent with a solid record and decent names on the resume even in loss.

That is a lie. Lil g avoided tough competition. He outright and actively avoids tough competition. Drev was a cherrypick. I already explained it we're not going back n forth because you refuse to acknowledge and tried to deflect and make up nonsense about Crawford as a distraction. [/QUOTE]

[Combat Talk Radio]

Ok, so when Crawford's mando was Danny Swift and Crawford refused it, what's that make Danny?

This is easier than I thought. Danny WAS NEVER THE MANDATORY FOR THE WBO. NEVER.

https://box.live/world-rankings/wbo/

I'm sorry, who is that in the #1 position bro?

At least with G, he fought a tough, durable opponent with a solid record and decent names on the resume even in loss.

That is a lie. Lil g avoided tough competition. He outright and actively avoids tough competition. Drev was a cherrypick.

Ok, so if Derevyanchenko who at least FOUGHT two top names was a cherrypick, I'll ask again. What does that make Kavaliauskas?

[Afi23]

^^^Being ranked number 1 doesn't mean much until the sanctioning body actually orders its champion to fight the number 1 ranked contender.

[Ritz Kola]

https://box.live/world-rankings/wbo/

I'm sorry, who is that in the #1 position bro?






Ok, so if Derevyanchenko who at least FOUGHT two top names was a cherrypick, I'll ask again. What does that make Kavaliauskas?

Being #1 does not = Being the mandatory. You clown. I already broke everything else down. I'm not playing your dumb game of going in circles and throwing incorrect information out.

[AKAcronym]

Pretty funny seeing the talk of Golovkin avoiding Andrade but Demetrius is the one who has repeatedly pulled out of fights with tough competition. Sure he was signed to fight Saunders but let's not forget the fights that fell thru because of Andrade, one of which was Derev.

[Combat Talk Radio]

^^^Being ranked number 1 doesn't mean much until the sanctioning body actually orders its champion to fight the number 1 ranked contender.

Being #1 does not = Being the mandatory. You clown. I already broke everything else down. I'm not playing your dumb game of going in circles and throwing incorrect information out.

WBO doesn't order mandatories. They list them, the fighter chooses to fight them or not. Which is how Bradley got away with not fighting mandos.

Look, I know you guys are all about Bud. But the fact is, he ducked the #1 guy in line for his belt to fight Kavaliauskas. Derevyanchenko has fought two quality opponents at least.

So if he's a bum, what does that make Kavaliauskas? It's a simple question.

[Roadblock]

They both good solid fighters without the glitz and glamour, people in here follow the hype like sheep if you dont have a big name youre no good according to them.

[Combat Talk Radio]

They both good solid fighters without the glitz and glamour, people in here follow the hype like sheep if you dont have a big name youre no good according to them.

I mean that's what I figured, which is why I got confused when out of nowhere Golovkin is getting flack for who he fought, which was a guy I saw was tough with decent opposition.

But then Crawford is still being thought of as #1 P4P based on who he fought, a guy who had a lesser resume than who Golovkin beat, where Crawford had got wobbled, dropped, frustrated and had to resort to holding and hitting.

Im still trying to match it up. Resume to resume, why isn't NSB considering Golovkin above Crawford? Based on their current weight class resumes, from my eyes GGG is way above Crawford.

[Afi23]

WBO doesn't order mandatories. They list them, the fighter chooses to fight them or not. Which is how Bradley got away with not fighting mandos.

Look, I know you guys are all about Bud. But the fact is, he ducked the #1 guy in line for his belt to fight Kavaliauskas. Derevyanchenko has fought two quality opponents at least.

So if he's a bum, what does that make Kavaliauskas? It's a simple question.

I don't know how it worked during Bradley's reign as a WBO champion but as per their current rules and regulations, it looks like the WBO does order mandatory fights:

"The World Championships Committee shall inform each World Champion
recognized as such by the Organization in his respective weight category of division, in
writing, with at least sixty (60) days of previous notice, of the obligation to defend the
title in a compulsory fight against the Mandatory Challenger. It is contemplated that the
Champion and the Mandatory Challenger shall attempt in good faith to reach an
agreement within the first thirty (30) days of the sixty (60) days mentioned herein. The
President or the Championship Committee may increase or decrease the time in which
the Champion and the Mandatory Challenger should reach an agreement, which period
shall be not less than five (5) days. If the Champion and the Mandatory Challenger fail
to reach agreement within such time as is determined by the President consistent with
these regulations, the President may order a Purse Bid as hereinafter provided. Either
the Champion or the Mandatory Challenger may end this negotiation period by written
notice to the WBO at any time during the Thirty (30) day negotiation period. The WBO
President shall have the discretion to reduce the negotiation period to not less than five
(5) days. The WBO President may call the Purse Bid within ten (10) days of the end of
the negotiation period.
SECTION 11. PURSE BIDS
(a) Purse Bids for championship fights shall contain the elements required by these"

https://www.wboboxing.com/regulations/

[Combat Talk Radio]

I don't know how it worked during Bradley's reign as a WBO champion but as per their current rules and regulations, it looks like the WBO does order mandatory fights:

"The World Championships Committee shall inform each World Champion
recognized as such by the Organization in his respective weight category of division, in
writing, with at least sixty (60) days of previous notice, of the obligation to defend the
title in a compulsory fight against the Mandatory Challenger. It is contemplated that the
Champion and the Mandatory Challenger shall attempt in good faith to reach an
agreement within the first thirty (30) days of the sixty (60) days mentioned herein. The
President or the Championship Committee may increase or decrease the time in which
the Champion and the Mandatory Challenger should reach an agreement, which period
shall be not less than five (5) days. If the Champion and the Mandatory Challenger fail
to reach agreement within such time as is determined by the President consistent with
these regulations, the President may order a Purse Bid as hereinafter provided. Either
the Champion or the Mandatory Challenger may end this negotiation period by written
notice to the WBO at any time during the Thirty (30) day negotiation period. The WBO
President shall have the discretion to reduce the negotiation period to not less than five
(5) days. The WBO President may call the Purse Bid within ten (10) days of the end of
the negotiation period.
SECTION 11. PURSE BIDS
(a) Purse Bids for championship fights shall contain the elements required by these"

https://www.wboboxing.com/regulations/

The problem is that they selectively enforce it, that's my point. When's the last time you saw a purse bid put on Manny when he had the belt?