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  • #41
    Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
    Post 36 is why I despair. Floyd wanting it fair means he doesn't want to give any advantages away so how can it be a great win?
    Pac beating thurman at 41 is only good because of Pac s age? Well it is that plus thurman So much bigger naturally and in prime and undefeated.
    Pac didnt try get any advantage! Your teaching for floyd as you like him that's how it comes across.
    Floyd at 35 fighting nel o is some big deal to you but Pac nearly 41 with more than 20 fights than floyd and longer career and did what no fighter in history has done is just ok?
    Something smells fishy with you. Something not right with you
    Your whole post is like online fellatio of the filipino.

    I like Manny, hes an amazing fighter. Now if Manny beats TC - especially in dominating fashion - that is a better win than Canelo. Most people have Crawford #1 PFP as well as the best WW and hes undefeated across 3 weight divisions.

    Thurman and Spence are both fun WWs but they're career WWs and they both have a TON of misses due to inactivity and avoiding competition. Neither has ever been ranked #1 PFP nor have either ever been #1 at WW. Both are good wins though especially for an older fighter.

    Crawford, however, is far more accomplished and proven despite not having the best resume. Hes never been in a close fight and almost always closes the show. The dude is #1 PFP for a reason and hes been Top 3 PFP for past 3-4 years.

    Pacman beating Crawford Trumps Floyd beating Canelo, but the Thurman win is as good as Floyd beating Mosley. Its unremarkable.

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    • #42
      I think Mayweather beating Alvarez is the better win until Crawford does something to prove otherwise. I think Crawford is a better fighter than Alvarez, and the age difference makes it a serious debate here, but Mayweather moved up to beat Alvarez right as Alvarez hit his prime. That's a seriously impressive win and arguably his best win of his career. It's a win that is just getting better over time.

      Now if Pacquiao were to beat Crawford after Crawford beat Spence, or if Crawford went on to the kind of success Alvarez has since losing to Floyd? Then we'd have a different conversation.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang View Post
        yall see this lol.. then why is crawford ranked so high on here by some of the posters? he's consider as the best ww right now. lol
        why u aint say all that in one post? Lol

        But Crawford living off his days at 140. He fought nobody since moving up to 147.

        And Canelo didn't have big wins either why i said it was hard to say but chose Crawford since he did unify 140.

        Now i said Crawford the better win.... Dont get upset cuz im honest about his lacking resume at 147.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by KillaMane26 View Post
          why u aint say all that in one post? Lol

          But Crawford living off his days at 140. He fought nobody since moving up to 147.

          And Canelo didn't have big wins either why i said it was hard to say but chose Crawford since he did unify 140.

          Now i said Crawford the better win.... Dont get upset cuz im honest about his lacking resume at 147.
          he's fought nobody at 147, yet he's consider as the best at 147 by some of yall.. you see the flaw here?

          and canelo hasnt fought anyone when floyd fought him either. but at that time, nobody was claiming canelo to be the best in his division, where as for TC, lots of posters on here is saying he's the best at 147. see the difference?

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          • #45
            Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang View Post
            he's fought nobody at 147, yet he's consider as the best at 147 by some of yall.. you see the flaw here?

            and canelo hasnt fought anyone when floyd fought him either. but at that time, nobody was claiming canelo to be the best in his division, where as for TC, lots of posters on here is saying he's the best at 147. see the difference?

            Imo he the most skilled guy at 147. But thats not the question. We comparing wins so now its not just about how skilled u are. Now its about your resume to determine how good of a win is.

            And why are u arguing with me? Lol.

            His resume at 147 is trash. Which is sad cuz he is arguably the most skilled guy at 147.

            Im not gonna lie about his resume just so PacFans can rate a possible win over him higher than it should.

            I dont understand your agenda.... Its like u wont accept that i said Crawford is the better win.

            Noooooo. U want me to bend over. Lol jezus

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            • #46
              Pac beating Crawford is better than floyd beating nelo. There isn't a human on earth who don't honestly think that Id bet my life on it.d

              But I genuinely don't think everyone thinks Pac s win over thurman is better than Floyd's win over nelo, even though I honestly think it is. Pac s 5 years older than Floyd is when he beat thurman, you can't pretend that only makes a little difference. You can't pretend to think 5 years isn't that much! You can't pretend Pac having more than 20 fights more than Floyd isn't an issue when he beat thurman without even having to talk about Floyd s CW!VS

              Pac shouldn't be in ring with thurman, because spence and Crawford surely havent.
              Flyweight s are past prime at 30 years of age. You've got to be logical
              Last edited by hugh grant; 06-03-2020, 11:16 AM.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
                Pac beating Crawford is better than floyd beating nelo. There isn't a human on earth who don't honestly think that Id bet my life on it.d

                But I genuinely don't think everyone thinks Pac s win over thurman is better than Floyd's win over nelo, even though I honestly think it is. Pac s 5 years older than Floyd is when he beat thurman, you can't pretend that only makes a little difference.
                Flyweight s are past prime at 30 years of age.

                Thurmans layoff and shaky return fight took away from it tho.

                Imo it was a really good win, but if it was Prime Thurman it would have been a great win and better than the Canelo fight.

                Have to take into account all details surrounding the fight and fighter when comparing.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by KillaMane26 View Post
                  Thurmans layoff and shaky return fight took away from it tho.

                  Imo it was a really good win, but if it was Prime Thurman it would have been a great win and better than the Canelo fight.

                  Have to take into account all details surrounding the fight and fighter when comparing.
                  Thurman was more proven than nel o and it wasn't a cw.
                  Thurman didn't look great before fighting Pac but you can argue thurman didn't take him seriously and no reason why Pac shouldn't think the thurman who beat porter, garcia, guerrer o would show up in their fight.

                  But taking everything into account Pac had it all to do a lot going against him, had all disadvantages against him, history was against him.
                  Floyd didn't have a lot going against him. No version of nel o was scary at that time. Floyd looked as good as he ever has against nelo you could say that was prime Floyd and you wouldn't be far wrong. Nel o wasn't a monster, he hadn't killed any killers in ring, there was no need for a cw. Not on strength of what nel o had did up to that point. Floyd just scared nelo hydrated to a big size?

                  Unless Floyd had Crystal ball and could see nelo future and that freaked Floyd out! But nel o was all about potential. After nel o lost to Floyd it was uncertain if nel o would amount to anything. Floyd had faith in nel o though even if people underwhelmed by him
                  Last edited by hugh grant; 06-04-2020, 03:17 AM.

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                  • #49
                    Floyd at 41 would have a really good chance at beating crawford.

                    Pac wouldnt have much chance of beating 23 year old 152lb canelo.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by KillaMane26 View Post
                      Thurmans layoff and shaky return fight took away from it tho.

                      Imo it was a really good win, but if it was Prime Thurman it would have been a great win and better than the Canelo fight.

                      Have to take into account all details surrounding the fight and fighter when comparing.
                      thurman wasn't prime now? he didnt look amazing in his fight before ok...floyd didnt look very good against augustus and that was before corrales. i guess floyd wasnt prime... every fight is different. there was no pattern of drop off from thumran. for example mosley against margarito, mosley looked good(to a certain extent) but his fights before that he looked like ass. that was an outlier and the truth was he was done. thurman not looking very good was an outlier if anything

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