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  • #31
    Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
    Thurman is better win than nelo. Floyd sabotaged his win over nelo. Floyd s win won't age well as he sabotaged it from outset the win can't grow.
    Based on what? Thurman won SD against Danny and Porter and couldve lose the Porter fight. He was almost KTFO by journeymen twice against ATG Josesito Lopez and Luis Collazo...???

    It's a good win but Keith was already injury riddled and even in his prime was never more than a B- fighter

    Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
    Crawford has actually looked spectacular beating who he beat at times. Nel o was highly touted when Floyd beat nelo, but nel o had not beaten anyone that good dominantly. Nel o wasn't top ten according to most people at time he didn't look that good v trout.
    Nel o win won't grow as Floyd sabotaged with cw as well as green.
    Canelo was the man at JMW by beating Trout who just beat Cotto. Canelo beat Angulo then Lara after Floyd.

    Nothing Thurman has done in his entire career is better than those 3 wins alone and that doesnt include GGG or Kovalev or Jacobs or Kirkland or Smith or anything else

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    • #32
      how is this even up for debate?? floyd beat a green canelo at 152!!!!... if pac beat TC, that would mean that pac beat a prime TC (TC is also consider the best WW right now by some of the posters on here) while pac is not prime anymore!!!!!!!!!

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      • #33
        Originally posted by UNBANNED View Post
        You are one of very few and maybe the only one in the world who believes that.

        You also are preferential to whites and vote **********, but I'm sure that has nothing to do with it
        Thanks for exposing your true colors. For one I'm not a **********. Not sure what race has to do with this thread...Thurman is black, unless of course he's not black enough for you.

        Thurman was a better win, he had already proven himself by beating the two best welter's in the division. He was in his prime. Canelo was still green and he was weight drained from that catch-weight. Manny was 40 years old when he beat Thurman. Oh, and for you Tank fans who keep insisting he is too young at age 25 to fight Loma, Canelo was only 22 when he fought Floyd. He also had a significantly shorter amateur career than both Floyd and Tank.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by UNBANNED View Post



          Canelo was the man at JMW by beating Trout who just beat Cotto. Canelo beat Angulo then Lara after Floyd.

          Nothing Thurman has done in his entire career is better than those 3 wins alone and that doesnt include GGG or Kovalev or Jacobs or Kirkland or Smith or anything else
          nelod did much less than thurman before he fought floyd, plus it was cw. So even.before we start talking or debating we got the facts on full view Floyd tried weakening nelo and get advantage. So Floyd sabotaged his win, there's no growth from that win.
          But we all wanted the CW, as it was the only way to get Floyd in the ring with nelo. No cw, no fight, but we can't then pretend it's a great win that grows and ages well like Sophia loren does.
          We all wanted the cw if it gets 2 fighters we want to see in the ring together who ordinarily wouldn't as the size gap too big. This wasn't case in this situation. Floyd s not to little.
          It's just blatantly trying to get advantage.

          Pac s win over thurman is greater, and most don't need to scream it from rooftops it doesn't need explaining it speaks for itself. Floyd fans speak of Floyd s win over nel o too much, they're trying too hard to get mileage out of that win
          Last edited by hugh grant; 06-03-2020, 09:11 AM.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post
            Thanks for exposing your true colors. For one I'm not a **********. Not sure what race has to do with this thread...Thurman is black, unless of course he's not black enough for you.

            Thurman was a better win, he had already proven himself by beating the two best welter's in the division. He was in his prime. Canelo was still green and he was weight drained from that catch-weight. Manny was 40 years old when he beat Thurman. Oh, and for you Tank fans who keep insisting he is too young at age 25 to fight Loma, Canelo was only 22 when he fought Floyd. He also had a significantly shorter amateur career than both Floyd and Tank.
            I dont follow Tank at all and am not a fan, personally.

            Thurman has never been "the guy" at WW. He lost to Porter in many peoples eyes and split with Danny Garcia. He almost got KTFO by ATG Josesito Lopez and GOAT WW Luis Collazo.

            Pac beat an inactive Thurman coming off injury and almost losing to journeyman. That's the reality. And it was basically a 6-6 fight with the KD. Nonetheless a GOOD WIN for Pacman.

            Canelo was definitely green, but hes gone on to accomplish great things. What's Floyd supposed to do? He took the fight at 35 years at a higher weight albeit a catchweight. No 22 year old in their right mind would turn down a chance at an ATG and 1st ballot HOF opponent so props to Canelo for taking that fight and Floyd as well.

            Theres no question Floyd's win over Canelo and Manny are incomparably superior than Manny's win over Thurman. Floyd's win over Mosley is better than Pacs win over Thurman, seriously. The only reason Thurmans win is meaningful is Pacs 41 years. Thurman himself is extremely forgettable and unimpressive.

            And you're a Trumper. Own it

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            • #36
              Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
              nelod did much less than thurman before he fought floyd, plus it was cw. So even.before we start talking or debating we got the facts on full view Floyd tried weakening nelo and get advantage. So Floyd sabotaged his win, there's no growth from that win.
              But we all wanted the CW, as it was the only way to get Floyd in the ring with nelo. No cw, no fight, but we can't then pretend it's a great win that grows and ages well like Sophia loren does.
              We all wanted the cw if it gets 2 fighters we want to see in the ring together who ordinarily wouldn't as the size gap too big. This wasn't case in this situation. Floyd s not to little.
              It's just blatantly trying to get advantage.
              As posted before, Floyd was 35 and fights at 147. A 1st ballot HOFer who was #1 PFP for past 7-10 years was offering a once in a lifetime chance to the emerging PPV star. Floyd conceded a few pounds at 152 and had a masterful performance. Was Floyd supposed to wait until he was 37 years old and Canelo 24? The two are just too far apart in age and size for there to have ever been a "fair match", but no 22 year old in their right mind would turn that opportunity down.

              Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
              Pac s win over thurman is greater, and most don't need to scream it from rooftops it doesn't need explaining it speaks for itself. Floyd fans speak of Floyd s win over nel o too much, they're trying too hard to get mileage out of that win
              Literally nobody save for a handful of Pac pansies rate a win over Thurman. The only reason that win is meaningful is because Oac was 41 years old. Thurman is a very average WW. He squeaked by Garcia and Porter and most thought Porter beat him. And he was almost KTFO by literal journeyman in Collazo and Lopez. The inactivity, injuries, and surgeries and ducking of Spence/Crawford have done Thurman no favors.

              Thurman was never more than a B- fighter and most dont think Manny fought the best version of Thurman. That fight by the way was either 7-5 or 6-6 and with the KD Manny won, but it was not some BHop Pavlik type of win (or Floyd Canelo). Manny did NOT school Thurman but he did win. And it's a great win for the age otherwise it's a forgettable win.

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              • #37
                Hard to say..... Crawford is a great win but fought nobody.

                And Canelo was green but bigger Kinda even.

                But i will go with Crawford

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                • #38
                  Post 36 is why I despair. Floyd wanting it fair means he doesn't want to give any advantages away so how can it be a great win?
                  Pac beating thurman at 41 is only good because of Pac s age? Well it is that plus thurman So much bigger naturally and in prime and undefeated.
                  Pac didnt try get any advantage! Your teaching for floyd as you like him that's how it comes across.
                  Floyd at 35 fighting nel o is some big deal to you but Pac nearly 41 with more than 20 fights than floyd and longer career and did what no fighter in history has done is just ok?
                  Something smells fishy with you. Something not right with you

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by KillaMane26 View Post
                    Hard to say..... Crawford is a great win but fought nobody.

                    And Canelo was green but bigger Kinda even.

                    But i will go with Crawford
                    yall see this lol.. then why is crawford ranked so high on here by some of the posters? he's consider as the best ww right now. lol

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by KillaMane26 View Post
                      Hard to say..... Crawford is a great win but fought nobody.

                      And Canelo was green but bigger Kinda even.

                      But i will go with Crawford
                      sadly, nelo has fought nobody too when he took on floyd. unless you wanna call a washed up mosley a great win?

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