Karmazin-Mayweather???

[amagnin]

why in every post you claim someone missed the point but yet you have not answered anyones reply. get off the subject already it's clear now how you and your little friends feel about mayweather. question, is this the extent of your boxing knowledge or do you just like to vent your dissaproval of who floyd fights?

Why is it all or nothing with everybody on both sides of this subject? I never said I hated Mayweather or I thought he was a ***** or anything insulting. I said one thing... I REALLY DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS FIGHT AGAINST SPINKS. Furthermore I think Floyd cherry-picked him because he thinks that this will be an easy win at 154. I am not saying it will be easier or more difficult than a fight with Antonio Margarito, simply that Floyd wanted an easy belt at 154 so he took his chance. I personally think that he should have settled things at 147 and fought BALDOMIR. If that didn't happen then I would say the most attractive fight (not most difficult or deserving etc) would be against Margarito for a lot of $ (whether its 8 million or less) and a lot of people's respect that he would take on a dangerous (but untested) fighter. So basically I come down in the middle on this. I simply wanted to point out that this was the relatively safe play and had nothing to do with a previous plan to move to 154 (at least until later on). My reasoning that this was not a planned move to 154 was that IF Karmazin had won Floyd would not have fought him (I believe he would have stayed at 147). In conclusion instead of demonizing and attacking me for having a negative opinion of this fight we can just disagree that Spinks is the right opponent. No big deal.

[cortdawg25]

You know what's funny...the justification people are using for the Spinks fight is to get ready for DLH. But Karmazin would make more sense as he is a righty and can punch. But if Karmazin had won, you know that all the blind-lovers would not say a thing about a tune-up at 154.

True, but Delahoya is left handed and fights orthodox. His best punch is the left hook. I dont think there is no coincidence that he is lining up all these southpaw fighters. he might just be preparing for Oscar. I still kinda think Oscar is retired and wont fight, but he has been saying things that suggest he is actually going to fight him.

[amagnin]

True, but Delahoya is left handed and fights orthodox. His best punch is the left hook. I dont think there is no coincidence that he is lining up all these southpaw fighters. he might just be preparing for Oscar. I still kinda think Oscar is retired and wont fight, but he has been saying things that suggest he is actually going to fight him.

I never knew DLH was left handed...interesting. But you are definitely right that his butter punch is that left hook. I also am not sure that this fight will ever happen that is also why I am so turned off at Floyd's move to 154 to fight Spinks. If DLH retires then it will have been a sort of pointless move as I don't think he will unify at 154. He'll probably move back down and end up fighting some of the other fights that we want like Mosley, Margarito, Hatton, Cotto, Baldomir etc.

[cortdawg25]

I never knew DLH was left handed...interesting. But you are definitely right that his butter punch is that left hook. I also am not sure that this fight will ever happen that is also why I am so turned off at Floyd's move to 154 to fight Spinks. If DLH retires then it will have been a sort of pointless move as I don't think he will unify at 154. He'll probably move back down and end up fighting some of the other fights that we want like Mosley, Margarito, Hatton, Cotto, Baldomir etc.

yeah he is lefthanded, thats why that left hook is so strong and his most deadliest punch. most of his KO are setup and finished with that left hook.

[AllEyesOpen]

Why is it all or nothing with everybody on both sides of this subject? I never said I hated Mayweather or I thought he was a ***** or anything insulting. I said one thing... I REALLY DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS FIGHT AGAINST SPINKS. Furthermore I think Floyd cherry-picked him because he thinks that this will be an easy win at 154. I am not saying it will be easier or more difficult than a fight with Antonio Margarito, simply that Floyd wanted an easy belt at 154 so he took his chance. I personally think that he should have settled things at 147 and fought BALDOMIR. If that didn't happen then I would say the most attractive fight (not most difficult or deserving etc) would be against Margarito for a lot of $ (whether its 8 million or less) and a lot of people's respect that he would take on a dangerous (but untested) fighter. So basically I come down in the middle on this. I simply wanted to point out that this was the relatively safe play and had nothing to do with a previous plan to move to 154 (at least until later on). My reasoning that this was not a planned move to 154 was that IF Karmazin had won Floyd would not have fought him (I believe he would have stayed at 147). In conclusion instead of demonizing and attacking me for having a negative opinion of this fight we can just disagree that Spinks is the right opponent. No big deal.

I'm not sure I can agree with that, it's speculation, we don't know what Floyd would have done if Spinks would have lost. I'm with you on that it's beginning to seem as though Floyd is cherry-picking his opponents, but he hasn't been doing it long enough for me to consider him at the RJJ level just yet, & he's trying to get a fight with DLH & Mosley which regardless of what you'd like to think would be very entertaining & competetive fights.

[amagnin]

I'm not sure I can agree with that, it's speculation, we don't know what Floyd would have done if Spinks would have lost. I'm with you on that it's beginning to seem as though Floyd is cherry-picking his opponents, but he hasn't been doing it long enough for me to consider him at the RJJ level just yet, & he's trying to get a fight with DLH & Mosley which regardless of what you'd like to think would be very entertaining & competetive fights.

I think we agree more than you think. You wouldn't hear a peep of complaining out of me if he fought Mosley or DLH. And I will agree with you that my point is TOTAL speculation. It is just my opinion that he wouldn't have challenged Karmazin (only opinion). At least you acknowledge that a pattern is starting to form and btw I would never put him at RJJ level. Spinks may not be an attractive opponent but he is a professional boxer not a professional garbage man or construction worker.

[AllEyesOpen]

I never knew DLH was left handed...interesting. But you are definitely right that his butter punch is that left hook. I also am not sure that this fight will ever happen that is also why I am so turned off at Floyd's move to 154 to fight Spinks. If DLH retires then it will have been a sort of pointless move as I don't think he will unify at 154. He'll probably move back down and end up fighting some of the other fights that we want like Mosley, Margarito, Hatton, Cotto, Baldomir etc.

Also I'd love to see him fight Wright at 154 so if DLH retires(which I hope he doesn't & decides to go out on top against Floyd win,lose, or draw) then it wasn't entirly a waste.

[amagnin]

Also I'd love to see him fight Wright at 154 so if DLH retires(which I hope he doesn't & decides to go out on top against Floyd win,lose, or draw) then it wasn't entirly a waste.

I think the most competitive fight in the sport today would be Wright-Mayweather. It wouldn't have the spectacle of a DLH-Mosley or DLH-Trinidad, but this would be the first time in a while 2 top 5 p4p fighters fought. I just don't think they will ever be able to agree on a split so unfortunately I don't think it will happen. If it did though then a trip to 154 definitely wouldn't be a waste.

[AllEyesOpen]

I think the most competitive fight in the sport today would be Wright-Mayweather. It wouldn't have the spectacle of a DLH-Mosley or DLH-Trinidad, but this would be the first time in a while 2 top 5 p4p fighters fought. I just don't think they will ever be able to agree on a split so unfortunately I don't think it will happen. If it did though then a trip to 154 definitely wouldn't be a waste.

I think you're forgetting the Wright/Taylor fight, they're both on my top 5 p4p list, actually they're both occuping my no. 2 spot until they fight again & someone comes out on top. I give props to Wright cause, well he's Wright 'nough said & I give Taylor props cause he beat B-hop twice(even though I don't agree with the first decision) & he did alot better against Winky then I expected him to personally I thought he lost, but he look great nontheless.

[amagnin]

I think you're forgetting the Wright/Taylor fight, they're both on my top 5 p4p list, actually they're both occuping my no. 2 spot until they fight again & someone comes out on top. I give props to Wright cause, well he's Wright 'nough said & I give Taylor props cause he beat B-hop twice(even though I don't agree with the first decision) & he did alot better against Winky then I expected him to personally I thought he lost, but he look great nontheless.

Yeah I don't have Taylor in my top 5 p4p, he is currently #6 on my list. But great match nonetheless. I think Taylor has got an unnecessary amount of **** over his last 3 fights. Sure maybe he is 0-2-1, but against guys that were top 3 p4p at the time he fought them. If more boxers took those kind of chances we as fans would be much happier. Props to both Wright and Taylor.