Comments Thread For: Linares: Lomachenko Still Best At Lightweight; Don't Think Lopez Can Beat Him

[TonyGe]

I'm starting to think that Bob Arum might screw Teofimo on the cards, let me tell you why : Toprank petition the WBC for the 'Franchise' lightweight title. Now according to the World Boxing Council, the 'Franchise' title can not be transferred. Therefore, if Teofimo KO's Bumchenko Toprank will loose all ties to the WBC ; as stated, you can not win the 'Franchise' title.

But maybe the plan all along was to avoid Devin Haney, so in that sense the 'Franchise' title served a purpose. Who knows what old Bob Arum is cooking, we just have to stay tuned.

The franchise champion designation is so crazy that it can't be won or lost in the ring. I guess the board of Governers can revoke it.

[1hourRun]

All Good calls.

Did you know that Zab 'Super' Judah legitimately dropped Floyd Mayweather?

The franchise champion designation is so crazy that it can't be won or lost in the ring. I guess the board of Governers can revoke it.

Bob Arum does buisness with the WBO, hes had issues with the WBC in the past. This 'Franchise' title along with Tyson Fury seemed to be strengthening the Arum Sulaiman relationship, and thereby providing more options for the Toprank promotion.

Maybe Toprank can simply request/ ask for another favor if Teofimo Lopez KO's Bumchenko. Thats all you have do now! Lopez for FRANCHISE!

[Citizen Koba]

I wonder why that never happened. "It's No-machenko because he doesn't want to fight me," said Haney

The full champion is obligated to fight the 'interim' champ. You know how you get around that? Maybe you petition the WBC for 'FRANCHISE' status.


This is true, but you know that team Lomachenko were aware that he would be exempt from obligations as the WBC lightweight champion, namely solidifying the WBC lightweight title with the 'Interim' champion, Devin 'The Dream' Haney.


Would the bookies favor Luke Campbell or Jorge Linares over Devin Haney? Teofimo Lopez is a even fight.


Did Bumchenko deserve a opportunity to win the WBO featherweight title in his second professional fight? I think this euro-bum is privileged.

You mean Devin Haney was not competing, climbing up the WBC ranks to earn a opportunity?


I wonder how Mauricio accomplished nabbing Lomachenko?


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When did I say that? I said, Lomachenko simply avoided Devin Haney by way of the WBC 'Franchise' title. It a fact.



Teofimo can take a loss at this early stage of his career, like Bumchenko did vs. Orlandoe Salido. Bob Arum fixed it : In a screw job, Teo is seen as the uncrowned champion and Vasily can press for a rematch. I think a screw-job is also profitable, one loss to a champion considered P4P is not the end of the road, but losing to a bum like Orlandoe Salidoe is another matter -- OH WAIT!

You're over thinking it man.

But @'bumchenko', man, you oughtta make sure you intellectual property rights over that one... although might I suggest the addition of an 'o' before the -chenko suffix might make it roll off the tongue a little better..

[TarasMarcenko]

I wonder why that never happened. "It's No-machenko because he doesn't want to fight me," said Haney

That's proof? Heresay and a quote from an opponent who is dying to get his name out there.

[jackblack008]

The fight not gonna happen. Right now they waiting for tune ups. Everyday Lopez gives a byte about movin to 140

[eco1]

I have one hour bum on ignore and you start quoting him.

[1hourRun]

You're over thinking it man.

But @'bumchenko', man, you oughtta make sure you intellectual property rights over that one... although might I suggest the addition of an 'o' before the -chenko suffix might make it roll off the tongue a little better..

I'm guilty of plagiarism, I don't remember where I got Bumchenko from. I love your idea, the 'o' adds that eastern-euro flavor. In hindsight, Bumchenko does sound like some western city-slicker made that up!


Hi everry bawdy I'm Vasily Bumochenko, bez phyter n wirl. #P4p

That's proof? "It's No-machenko because he doesn't want to fight me," said Haney. Heresay and a quote from an opponent who is dying to get his name out there.

The gif was for you.

[TarasMarcenko]

I wonder why that never but losing to a bum like Orlandoe Salidoe is another matter -- OH WAIT!

"He said he wanted to fight for the title in the first fight. Bob Arum had to explain to him it's impossible. But because he has the two gold medals and is one of the best amateurs ever, we said we can try for it in the second fight and, thanks to Bob Arum, he made it happen." ...

If featherweight Vasyl Lomachenko had gotten his way, he would have fought for a world title in his pro debut. But when manager Egis Klimas and Top Rank promoter Bob Arum explained that it was not possible, Lomachenko settled for the alternative plan.

Arum promised Lomachenko that if he won his pro debut he would deliver him a title shot in his second pro fight.

Lomachenko, the two-time Olympic gold medalist from Ukraine who is regarded by many as the best amateur in boxing history -- he was reportedly 396-1 -- looked outstanding in his pro debut. In a flawless performance, he crushed fringe contender Jose Ramirez in a fourth-round knockout victory in October in Las Vegas on the Timothy Bradley Jr.-Juan Manuel Marquez undercard.
Shortly thereafter, Arum kept his word and lined up the world title shot. It promises to be a fascinating fight when Lomachenko, the 2013 ESPN.com prospect of the year, challenges Orlando Salido for his 126-pound title Saturday night (HBO, 9:45 ET/PT) at the Alamodome in San Antonio.

"Thank you to Top Rank and a special thank you to Bob Arum for making this fight happen -- for making my dream come true," Lomachenko said through a translator. "Tune into HBO 'World Championship Boxing' on [Saturday]. You will remember the Alamodome that night."
Klimas knew that Lomachenko wanted to move quickly, but even he was caught off-guard at just how fast.

"I know he can do it, but I was a little surprised at first that he wanted to go so fast," Klimas said.

"He said he wanted to fight for the title in the first fight. Bob Arum had to explain to him it's impossible. But because he has the two gold medals and is one of the best amateurs ever, we said we can try for it in the second fight and, thanks to Bob Arum, he made it happen."

[Pigeons]

I think this can be a tough fight for Lomachenko. Lopez is a big LW in his first weight class, he can knock him out. Obviously the age old question is can he get there to land those punches? All of his career opponents combined don't amount to the skill possessed by Lomachenko. We shall see. That's why it's an intriguing fight.

[TarasMarcenko]

"He said he wanted to fight for the title in the first fight. Bob Arum had to explain to him it's impossible. But because he has the two gold medals and is one of the best amateurs ever, we said we can try for it in the second fight and, thanks to Bob Arum, he made it happen." ...

If featherweight Vasyl Lomachenko had gotten his way, he would have fought for a world title in his pro debut. But when manager Egis Klimas and Top Rank promoter Bob Arum explained that it was not possible, Lomachenko settled for the alternative plan.

Arum promised Lomachenko that if he won his pro debut he would deliver him a title shot in his second pro fight.

Lomachenko, the two-time Olympic gold medalist from Ukraine who is regarded by many as the best amateur in boxing history -- he was reportedly 396-1 -- looked outstanding in his pro debut. In a flawless performance, he crushed fringe contender Jose Ramirez in a fourth-round knockout victory in October in Las Vegas on the Timothy Bradley Jr.-Juan Manuel Marquez undercard.
Shortly thereafter, Arum kept his word and lined up the world title shot. It promises to be a fascinating fight when Lomachenko, the 2013 ESPN.com prospect of the year, challenges Orlando Salido for his 126-pound title Saturday night (HBO, 9:45 ET/PT) at the Alamodome in San Antonio.

"Thank you to Top Rank and a special thank you to Bob Arum for making this fight happen -- for making my dream come true," Lomachenko said through a translator. "Tune into HBO 'World Championship Boxing' on [Saturday]. You will remember the Alamodome that night."
Klimas knew that Lomachenko wanted to move quickly, but even he was caught off-guard at just how fast.

"I know he can do it, but I was a little surprised at first that he wanted to go so fast," Klimas said.

"He said he wanted to fight for the title in the first fight. Bob Arum had to explain to him it's impossible. But because he has the two gold medals and is one of the best amateurs ever, we said we can try for it in the second fight and, thanks to Bob Arum, he made it happen."

Salido, 33, of Mexico, failed to make weight and was stripped of his belt at the weigh-in. He was 128¼ pounds, well over the 126-pound limit.*And he weighed 11 pounds more than Lomachenko at the start of the contest.

Boxing Insider, "Salido showed up heavy for the fight. Really heavy. One hundred forty-seven pounds heavy."

Bad Left Hook: "A few things worked against him [Lomachenko]. Orlando Salido not making the fight's weight limit of 126 pounds and then rehydrating up to 147, compared to Lomachenko's 136."


The referee of the fight, Laurence Cole, was roundly criticized for his perceived failure to properly conduct the match:

ESPN wrote, "Cole warned him only once and did not seem too concerned" regarding low blows.

In an interview with*The Ring Magazine, Laurence admitted that his performance in the fight "might not have been his 'A-game." and they noted "Cole came under fire for appearing to allow Salido to land an inordinate amount of low blows."

Boxing Insider*wrote, "Of course Salido didn't exactly win the fight fair and square. The guy was about as dirty as they come on Saturday. He hit low and hit low consistently. Referee Laurence Cole didn't seem to notice, or to much care, so Salido whacked Lomachenko below the beltline throughout the entire bout..."

Boxing.com*wrote, "Few referees have turned in a performance as bad as that which Laurence Cole blessed us with Saturday night in, inevitably, San Antonio, Texas" and "astonishingly bad performance" in its article. They have claimed that the referee Laurence Cole failed to enforce rules on clinching, pushing and blows below the belt. The site has also mentioned: "not only should this ridiculous excuse for a referee be sacked forthwith but the role of his father plays in allegedly consistently obtaining for him some of the biggest fights in Texas in his role with the Texan commission needs to be investigated."

Yahoo Sports wrote that the fight was "poorly officiated by referee Laurence Cole, who missed numerous fouls and seemed to let anything go."

Bad Left Hook*wrote, "Maligned Texas referee Laurence Cole's performance was roundly and rightly criticized for missing a metric ton of Salido's low blows, which landed on the thighs and hips mainly. And that mattered."

The Sweet Science*wrote, "Holding and hitting, hitting on the break, low blows galore... Salido was aided by ref Laurence Cole who left his glasses at home."

This was the latest in many controversies surrounding Cole, whose father ****ie Cole is the long time boxing commissioner of Texas.