Comments Thread For: Linares: Lomachenko Still Best At Lightweight; Don't Think Lopez Can Beat Him

[bluebeam]

Haney shouldn't have been gifted that belt. He should have been made to fight for it against Campbell. Haney did nothing to deserve it except get skipped over in the Loma and Campbell fight. Loma was NEVER mandated to fight Haney next after the Campbell win. The rules are absolutely clear, undisputed bout trumps mando everytime, 100 percent of the time. Franchise was not not awarded to Loma with the specific agenda so he could specifically not fight Haney. Haney is just the fighter who benefitted in getting a belt. Could have been any fighter in that position, not specifically Haney. Haney is not even better than Campbell or prime Linares. Definitely not more powerful or more skilled than Teo.

Haney got lucky. Loma deserved Franchise. Haney was just in the right spot at the right time to get a free belt that was Loma's, not his. Loma didn"t give the belt to Haney, Suieleman did. Loma was not in that decision making process.

As far as he knew they could treat it as an empty belt and have had Haney and Campbell fight for it. Sounds like Sueileman appeased Haney for Hearns. Remember Campbell was higher ranked than Haney. Campbell loses to Loma so suddenly he is worse than Haney?

Franchise had nothing to do with Haney. Anyone who reads it from the myopic stance that this Franchise decision by Suileman was about Haney is out of context and pissed they are not seeing a Haney & Loma fight immediately. But Loma is going for the IBF first, then he stated two fights he wants are Tank and Haney. All good things down the line. Any black fight fan of a black fighter would not think it smart that thier fighter in Loma's position, should fight a non belt holder rather than for undisputed and a belt holder. Teo bests Haney, beats Haney, 9 out of ten times. He is a bigger challenge for Loma. Haney is no slouch but he fought cans to get here. He can fight Loma after the Loma and Teo fight, if Loma wins. All the Haney racist fans want Haney to have a crack at winning all four belts before Teo. Cause it looks like prime pickings, Loma being too small for 135 with all the weight bullys. Lets see if Loma can beat all these big fighters with the skill that Franchise fighter should possess.

Once he fights Haney he comes full circle and closes this chapter. Sueileman was drooling to get a chance to nab Loma. Clearly the best fighter to come out in a generation. 2 gold medals and best amateur record in history. Not fighting cans. And able to beat champions in 3 divisions. Eight 5 star fighters in 15 fights. Haney Zero 5 star fighters in 24 fights.

Yeah, Haney was the reason Loma was given Franchise. Really? Haney was all that to influence this?

Rigo- jumped 2 weight classes

Walters- 1 year layoff coming off of a draw before the loma fight and hasnt fought since the loma fight

Linares- has been knocked out at multiple weight classes

Russell jr- loma best win

Salido- loma first loss

Pedraza- tank did it first

All i did was list facts about his resume and you will still call me a hater. And the truth is I like matrix. But he aint what you making him out to be.

Tank, haney, teofimo, ryan are all right there for loma to cement his legacy against 4 undefeated prime fighters.he dont have to fight all 4. But at least 2.

Lomachencko is a good fighter, but don't try to make him out to be some unbeatable fighter because his resume doesn't have an elite prime fighter on it.

As far as devin haney being lucky goes... luke Campbell just lost against loma for the 135 title. He didnt deserve an immediate shot at the wbc title again. He has to get in line.

Bottom line lomachencko cant become undisputed without a Devin haney fight. Every thing else you said is irrelevant.

[1hourRun]

Who's we?

Are you with Team Fury now?

I like Lopez, btw, but I don't think he can beat Loma. He has a better chance than Wilder has of beating Fury though.

Your reply made me laugh! Very nice! Me team Gypsy-Bum?! I guess you were being serious in your earlier comment, I definitely would have to have my head examined if I ever supported that fraud Tyson Phooey.



Did you know that Tyson Fury is a -220 favorite against Deontay 'Bronze-Bomber' Wilder and Vasily Lomachenko is a - 400 against Teofimo? So the way it reads, Vegas is not too confident in Tyson Fury ; because everyone knows '' all it takes is ONE!''. BOMBSQUAD!!!

[IRONCHINHAGLER]

We seen the same if not a worse Bumchenko since Linares dropped him, if you ask me. Vasily is on the slide, if Luke Campbell had Lomachenko hurt in the mid-rounds and Linares hit Lomachenko with wicked combos and dropped him, I would not be shocked if Lomachenko ends up on the floor against Tefimo Lopez.

Toprank will no doubt send in Jack Reiss to protect their 'Franchise' chumpion.

Edit: I forgot that Teofimo is also with Toprank, so maybe Lomachenko will have to win this one without any help. No wonder Lomachenko has been complaining about fighting Lopez.

lol - hating on top p4p across the board Loma...who is fighting undefeated power punching Lopez....while babies/protected Stank Davis fights old pillow-fisted 2 loss Santa Cruz.

[IRONCHINHAGLER]

Your reply made me laugh! Very nice! Me team Gypsy-Bum?! I guess you were being serious in your earlier comment, I definitely would have to have my head examined if I ever supported that fraud Tyson Phooey.



Did you know that Tyson Fury is a -220 favorite against Deontay 'Bronze-Bomber' Wilder and Vasily Lomachenko is a - 400 against Teofimo? So the way it reads, Vegas is not too confident in Tyson Fury ; because everyone knows '' all it takes is ONE!''. BOMBSQUAD!!!

Lol - like in the 1st fight - wen Fat Fury took 2 bombs and got up and took the fight to toothpick legs!!! All it takes is one ****-looking pre-fight costume and. Fat Gypsy to whip the “self-proclaimed baddest man on the planet” !! Wat a poozy!!! Buuuuuumsquad!!!!!!

[Mario g]

I have one hour bum on ignore and you start quoting him.

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He is one irritating dumbazz. I don't blame you.

[Mario g]

Lomachenko's sister was an Olympic level gymnast.


Vasyl with sister.

Wow Lomas sister is gorgeous!😍

[Corelone]

Rigo- jumped 2 weight classes

Walters- 1 year layoff coming off of a draw before the loma fight and hasnt fought since the loma fight

Linares- has been knocked out at multiple weight classes

Russell jr- loma best win

Salido- loma first loss

Pedraza- tank did it first

All i did was list facts about his resume and you will still call me a hater. And the truth is I like matrix. But he aint what you making him out to be.

Tank, haney, teofimo, ryan are all right there for loma to cement his legacy against 4 undefeated prime fighters.he dont have to fight all 4. But at least 2.

Lomachencko is a good fighter, but don't try to make him out to be some unbeatable fighter because his resume doesn't have an elite prime fighter on it.

As far as devin haney being lucky goes... luke Campbell just lost against loma for the 135 title. He didnt deserve an immediate shot at the wbc title again. He has to get in line.

Bottom line lomachencko cant become undisputed without a Devin haney fight. Every thing else you said is irrelevant.

This is my opinion too. One time a year Gary is Loma's best win. Paulie has a better resume.

[Timur78]

I have one hour bum on ignore and you start quoting him.

Exactly how I thought about it...1HourBum

[angkag]

Rigo- jumped 2 weight classes

Walters- 1 year layoff coming off of a draw before the loma fight and hasnt fought since the loma fight

Linares- has been knocked out at multiple weight classes

Russell jr- loma best win

Salido- loma first loss

Pedraza- tank did it first

All i did was list facts about his resume and you will still call me a hater. And the truth is I like matrix. But he aint what you making him out to be.

Don't forget some of the other facts around these facts:

Rigo
- turned down the fight at 126 (1 weight class up) so Loma moved on to 130. Only then did Rigo acknowledge Loma wasn't going to drop to 124 for a catchweight and finally took the fight at 130
- the same people now calling Loma a bum gleefully predicted how Rigo would school Loma, now they can only point to the weight difference
- note Loma didn't beat Rigo by using his size and weight in the fight, he outskilled him

Walters
-again, he turned down a fight with Loma beforehand and the 1 year layoff was his own doing. If he had taken the fight when first offered it wouldn't have been a 13 month layoff
- again, pre-Loma, Walters was highly rated and many thought he could hand Loma a loss. Post fight, he was trashed

Linares
- KO'd 6 years previously and unbeaten since then. 6 title defences
- why didn't Mikey fight him ? Mikey underperformed every time he faced a slick boxer and he knew Linares' style was his kryptonite

Salido
- If Salido had made weight and the referee enforced the rules, Salido would have been DQ'd, else would have lost the advantage he gained from being able to go low to set up shots up top.
- He barely finished the fight on his feet as it was, if he had made weight (which he missed by a LOT) he wouldn't have been able to make it to 12 at that pace
- Loma didn't know how to pace himself for 12 rounds at the time so started too slow, something easily corrected later
- Salido's win proved nothing about Loma except to give a crutch to people who want to discredit him by quoting the fight/result without context. Anyone quoting Salido at this point is simply discrediting their own knowledge and understanding of boxing.

Pedraza
- different weights. Pedraza was struggling to continue making 130. Loma did it at 135 (and coming off shoulder surgery 6 months previously for a 360 degree labrum tear - most tears are about 120, so it wasn't minor)

Teo
- same will be said about Teo
- right now many see Teo as Loma's toughest test, just like they did with Walters and Rigo pre-fight.
- Post fight it will be the same 'doesn't count - he was young, struggling with the weight etc etc' to once again quote 'facts' of why Loma's win wasn't so impressive

[kafkod]

Your reply made me laugh! Very nice! Me team Gypsy-Bum?! I guess you were being serious in your earlier comment, I definitely would have to have my head examined if I ever supported that fraud Tyson Phooey.

Team Wilder doing the snake dance!