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  • #61
    Originally posted by radiotracer View Post
    I hope they don’t deny Mikey a HOF pass if he doesn’t beat Pacquiao because the odds will be against him.
    If you're saying that you hope that wouldn't deny Mikey a HOF spot if he fought Pac now, and Mikey lost, they might deny Mikey HOF entry.... it depends.

    If Mikey retired right after. At 40-2 with 31 KOs (I think that's his numbers) and his last 3 fights are UD loss Spence, UD win Vargas, and Loss to Pac, I don't think he gets in, nor deserves to. Some would argue the 4-weight champ status, but so what? Broner has that too. Is he HOF?

    But let's say Mikey lost to Pac, but his career ends like 42-2 with 32 KOs. Last 3 fights are Loss to Pac, KO against a Barrios for a belt, and then a SD win against a D Garcia with a belt, or Jaron Ennis (who may have a belt that far down the line). THEN winning his 5th division championship.... I could see that resume getting him in. Just throwing possibilities out there

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    • #62
      I would say Pac and Canelo deserve to be called great. Canelo might be borderline but he has time in his favor. He can add to his resume. Pac could retire today and he goes down as an ATG. Forgive me if I forgot anyone

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      • #63
        Manny for sure.

        Canelo has arguably lost his 3 biggest fights, officially he’s 1-1-1 in his 3 biggest fights. Most fans and media think he’s 0-3 between the Floyd and GGG fights.

        I know Manny had his losses too, but his other big wins and longevity make him a definite

        Canelo needs some real concrete wins over good names, but he’s on track.

        Fury could when he beats AJ, he will have proven to be the best of this era, while also ending Wlad’s reign. Fury started a new era that night. The thing that lets his case down is the depth of the resume, but then I guess you can say it’s quality over quantity.
        Last edited by deathofaclown; 06-05-2020, 07:27 PM.
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        • #64
          Originally posted by MxicoFistology View Post
          Certainly not Lomachenko or crawford. Lomachenko already got hurt by marriaga, got dropped by an over the hill Jorge Linares , got BEAT by a class c fighter orlando salido, struggled by a fighter who had never even been world champion Luke Campbell, definitely not great. Lomachenko has 40 pro fights , his biggest name is a washed up amir khan , a 2 weigh classes smaller gamboa, definitely not great.
          Crawford. Not Loma

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          • #65
            ...Thomas Hauser is the Dave Meltzer of the boxing world.

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            • #66
              “Reads by Thomas Hauser, decides not to read it”

              This guy has been on the Top Rank payroll for so long you can see it in every article he writes, and all his articles are either totally biased and/or filled with loads of inaccurate information.

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              • #67
                Usyk, Canelo, gallo Estrada, chocolatito González, bam Rodríguez, Naoya Inoue, Terence "Bud" Crawford (if he improves his resume), bivol, Shakur Stevenson

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                • #68
                  I don't believe any of the modern fighters are great. Too inactive, too untested. Today's elite might be making a lot of money, but that's not the same thing as greatness.

                  The American "muh A side", "muh split" philosophy popularised by Floyd Mayweather is uninspiring in the extreme.
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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by MÄtztli View Post
                    Usyk, Canelo, gallo Estrada, chocolatito González, bam Rodríguez, Naoya Inoue, Terence "Bud" Crawford (if he improves his resume), bivol, Shakur Stevenson
                    Wtf? Outside of Canelo, Crawford has at least as good of a resume as any of them (miles ahead of Stevenson and especially Bam). Where’d you come up with that shyte?
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                    • #70
                      Bud, Canelo, and Usyk but only because CW's so fresh it lacks a wealth of ATGs.

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