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  • MulaKO
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    #11
    Originally posted by champion4ever
    Don't be mad. It is what it is. I'm only being real. After all, this is an open and public forum where users are free to express their various point of views. He never does nothing before knockdowns. Did you by any chance saw his penultimate rematch bout with Luis Ortiz? He didn't shit then either.


    Not mad at all
    Your just helping him to not win
    By saying the ref helped Fury , it’s just another bullchit excuse
    He should put his ego away and get some true trainers instead of yes men
    If not , the result will be the same

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      #12
      Originally posted by MulaKO
      Not mad at all
      Your just helping him to not win
      By saying the ref helped Fury , it’s just another bullchit excuse
      He did helped him win. I am not the only boxing fan who shares that opinion. Many of us believe the Reiss was both partial, biased and subjective toward Tyson Fury because he wanted him to win. Moreover, it didn't help matters that they both shared the same skin tone. It gave the look of both impropriety and favoritism.

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        #13
        Originally posted by IRONCHINHAGLER
        ur “racial” crap don’t fly....comes across as still being butt-hurt about the “throw in the towel no doubt about it “ azz whipping ur hero took in the 2nd fight - referee’d by a dark skinned individual where all the “alleged “ illegal rough house tactics supposedly took place!!! White ref in 1st - Wilder outclassed and outboxed .... black ref in 2nd - Straight up Beatdown!!
        No, I believe that the referees are instructed by the Athletic commissions to take it easy on Tyson Fury because he's white because there haven't been many white heavyweight boxing champions in the past 20 years or so. In addition, he is that one Great white hope that is going to help bring boxing back into the American mainstream. That is the reason why him and Klitschko are allowed to bend and play by a different set of rules because they are white.

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          #14
          Originally posted by champion4ever
          He did helped him win. I am not the only boxing fan who shares that opinion. Many of us believe the Reiss was both partial, biased and subjective toward Tyson Fury because he wanted him to win. Moreover, it didn't help matters that they both shared the same skin tone. It gave the look of both impropriety and favoritism.


          Petty
          Very petty
          Excuses are just that , excuses
          If Wilder hasn’t done anything to improve , I can hardly wait for the 3rd instalment of excuses

          Smfh

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            #15
            Why do you enjoy making yourself look like an absolute wally?

            Originally posted by champion4ever
            Yeah, that ain't shit. Wilder loses all the rounds to his opponents but it still didn't stop him from knocking Tyson Fury's ass out though but the referee saved him because of white skin privilege.

            There I said it. Race did play a determining factor and role in Jack Reiss' decision to not wave Fury off. Just like he should have been stopped against Otto Wallin with those two nasty gashes over his eye but the referee allowed the fight to continue anyway.
            You say the referee helped him (because you’re butt hurt) due to “white skin privilege”...then say “just like in the Wallin fight”...lad, Wallin is white and the referee was black. how did race play a factor there?

            Originally posted by champion4ever
            He did helped him win. I am not the only boxing fan who shares that opinion. Many of us believe the Reiss was both partial, biased and subjective toward Tyson Fury because he wanted him to win. Moreover, it didn't help matters that they both shared the same skin tone. It gave the look of both impropriety and favoritism.
            Firstly, I’m glad to see you’re now joining the masses (and Wilder’s own team) and acknowledging Fury did indeed win the first fight. There may still be hope for you yet. Secondly, don’t misrepresent yourself as an unbiased boxing fan lol you and your fangirl opinion that Reiss saved Fury is in the smallest of ********** and has one gigantic flaw...the fact that Fury not only got up, but he won the rest of the round and had Wilder out on his feet. So why should Reiss have called off the fight? A referee stops a fight when they deem a fighter unable to continue. With how the twelfth round played out, Reiss’ decision was quite blatantly the correct one. Any argument to say otherwise is solely based on emotion; bitterness, jealousy and resentment.

            You just can’t win with fangirls. “The referee helped Fury in the first fight because he’s white”...”Fury won the second fight because he fought dirty (with a black referee allowing it to happen, might I add).” What’s the excuse gonna be when Wilder gets beat for a third time? “The referee was a man, he favoured Fury because they both have a Y chromosome (which WilldHer clearly lacks).”

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              #16
              Originally posted by champion4ever
              If Wilder comes in prepared and focused he is confident he can defeat Tyson Fury. He almost did it the first time but Tyson Fury had gotten help from the referee. That was the major difference in the fight. Jack Reiss literally saved his ass from taking an L.
              If Fury was 'knocked out' he wouldn't have made it up on his feet inside the 10 count. Jack Reiss is a great ref. If Fury was drunk when he got up it would have been stopped, Fury won the rest of the round.

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              • markther
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                #17
                This is all Whyte needed to say and the entire boxing world knows it already, “He’s an aggressive front foot fighter, but he can’t fight on the back foot.“

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                  #18
                  The thing is Wilder was becoming a better boxer. In the 1st fight with Stiverne he showed a great jab, a good left hook, threw some combos, decent footwork, and even some angles. Since that fight and in my opinion since being hurt by Ortiz, he has regressed dramatically, his output has gone done dramatically and he has fought very timid against anyone he thinks can hurt him.

                  I'm a Wilder fan but I'm very disappointed in him, his team, and his lack of improvement. Throwing 80 punches in a 6 round fight til you finally knock someone out is not being smart and patient, it's just embarrassing. It's unfortunate, the Wilder from that 1st Stiverne fight was pretty damn impressive compared to now, he should have kept developing those skills.
                  Last edited by Awhispersecho; 05-29-2020, 07:32 PM.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Awhispersecho
                    The thing is Wilder was becoming a better boxer. In the 1st fight with Stiverne he showed a great jab, a good left hook, threw some combos, decent footwork, and even some angles. Since that fight and in my opinion since being hurt by Ortiz, he has regressed dramatically, his output has gone done dramatically and he has fought very timid against anyone he thinks can hurt him.

                    I'm a Wilder fan but I'm very disappointed in him, his team, and his lack of improvement. Throwing 80 punches in a 6 round fight til you finally knock someone out is not being smart and patient, it's just embarrassing. It's unfortunate, the Wilder from that 1st Stiverne fight was pretty damn impressive compared to now, he should have kept developing those skills.
                    True indeed, Wilder should increase his punch output for guys like Fury. But Fury is taller and much more difficult to land on compared to any of Wilders shorter opponents. Wilder does really well against shorter guys, especially because he’s so quick (overall), especially with the right mallet. The ‘waiting’ & ‘limited output’ IS the strategy for shorter guys - and it worked/works.

                    Wilder doesn’t need to fight off the back foot as much as people think he does. What he needs is a competent ref that won’t allow Fury to lean binge on him like a restless drunk - especially when Wilder exercises his strategic right to come forward or stand his ground.

                    If Wilder chooses not to back up - that’s a part of his style. And Fury had/has no right to drop his murderous weight on him in such a dangerous manner - on anybody for that matter.

                    Desperate Fury’s NEVER fought anyone in the way he smother roasted Wilder. And now every so-called expert wants him to do the “rope a dope” or “retreat” when the big feather fisted behemoth comes forward?!? Why? To accommodate Fury’s fat ass like a coat rack??! To conform into Floor Matt the “bird legged” Nobody that pleases the Fury fan-girl base?? NO fighter has to back up if they don’t want to. Tyson, Hagler, Macullum, Mugabi Jackson etc,. are examples of those who don’t particularly dig backing up at all (they’ll take a few steps back here & there to readjust their strategy - Wilder does TOO)! And that’s fine.

                    Fury CHEATED for a reason, he didn’t want to deal with Wilders STYLE fair & square - PERIOD!

                    Fury didn’t even have patience enough to deal with Wilders low output in counterpunch fashion. That’s OK if he wanted to force the pace. But he CHEATED in a fast paced chaos that I swore was going to break or fracture a part of Wilders leg or neck (more so a leg).

                    And I truly hope Wilder gets some people in his camp that will INSIST on CHECKING the integrity of Fury’s flame ******ant transformer OPEN PALM FLOP glove!!

                    Again, Wilder DOES NOT need to accommodate Fury’s every sick Body Flop fetish. It’s GAY and it can cause some serious injuries that fan girls could care less about...

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                      #20
                      Wilder fans are the biggest laughing stocks in boxing lol.

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