Comments Thread For: Not Pound for Pound...Champ for Champ 2020, Pt. 3

[Timur78]

except they are Loma is a natural featherweight fighting at lightweight against all bigger longer stronger top ten boxers in the division and dominating he has dropped or stopped everybody he fought Linares is a 4 time 3 weight champion who was undefeated for five years and ducked by Mikey and Loma got injured at the start still stopped him being outweighed by atleast 15 pounds probably 20 pounds then Pedraza was right after surgery no right hooks used was careful with the shoulder still dropped him twice only had 13% of punches landed on him weightdrained Jose landed double the amount of punches on Tank in half the rounds then Crolla who Loma did not want to fight he wanted Commey but he was injured so he was forced to fight his mandatory former champion Crolla and dropped and stopped him easy didnt even get hit under 10% then Campbell Olympic gold medalist in his home country with every physical advantage possible height reach length power size weight everything except age they were the same and Loma won almost every round dominated dropped him once almost stopped him but Luke went for the takedown to avoid getting stopped holding on to his legs to survive to the end all of these guys were much bigger than Loma and had every physical advantage over him all in the top ten now Lopez fought Commey who Loma was supposed to fight but still beat him after injury whatever and Haney never beat anybody to be champion he was still interim but got elevated when Loma got upgraded to franchise to make the Lopez fight for undisputed

Probably shouldn't waste your knowledge on this 1hourRun.
If he *****s on boxers and doesn't know anything about them and their achievements,
he probably shouldn't be on the forum?

[Dasmius Shinobi]

The best so far in these series.

There is more debate in this one compared to part I and II in these series of "Not Pound for Pound...Champ for Champ 2020".

[1hourRun]

Which divisions have quality is always debatable but it's still preferable to have all top ten guys in a divisional run. If he goes straight to Two next, that's five for five. Relative to what is available in his weight, hard to ask for much more.

I reluctantly have to put Lomachenko at #1. for now. However, I am not impressed for the reasons stated, the division is green.

it is well known that Loma fought above his natural weight in the amateurs as did Usyk to challenge themselves and get ready for the pros as stating in the Ukrainian Olympic boxing team documentary but lightweight in the amateurs is the same as featherweight in the pros they dont cut weight

Vasily Lomachenko was a natural featherweight maybe 11 years ago, everyone ages and grows. The current 140 pound unified champion Jose Ramirez competed against Vasily Lomachenko at the amateur lightweight limit of 132 in 2011, ( many experts feel he beat Lomachenko ). Ramirez even fought at 125 ( featherweight ) -- Is Jose Ramirez a natural 122 pounder by your logic? Vasily Lomachenko fought within the lightweight limit and achieved the highest honor, gold in London. When you weigh the facts, Bumchenko is a natural lightweight and struggling, you can say he is past his prime ; but dont tell me he is a featherweight.

Loma is the smallest lightweight by far in size the commentators in England said he looks like a featherweight from the front and a flyweight from the back and not struggling he is the only lightweight to either drop or stop all of his opponents who all are in the top ten by the way for sure

Bumchenko is also nearly getting KO frequently at lightweight.

[b Murphington]

I reluctantly have to put Lomachenko at #1. for now. However, I am not impressed for the reasons stated, the division is green.

Vasily Lomachenko was a natural featherweight maybe 11 years ago, everyone ages and grows. The current 140 pound unified champion Jose Ramirez competed against Vasily Lomachenko at the amateur lightweight limit of 132 in 2011, ( many experts feel he beat Lomachenko ). Ramirez even fought at 125 ( featherweight ) -- Is Jose Ramirez a natural 122 pounder by your logic? Vasily Lomachenko fought within the lightweight limit and achieved the highest honor, gold in London. When you weigh the facts, Bumchenko is a natural lightweight and struggling, you can say he is past his prime ; but dont tell me he is a featherweight.

Bumchenko is also nearly getting KO frequently at lightweight.

He got dropped one time. Getting knocked down doesn’t equate to “nearly getting KOed.” And it wasn’t frequently.

He isn’t running through guys at lightweight he has to work harder, but he’s more than holding his own with the guys he’s faced so far at this weight.