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  • #11
    Originally posted by ToMeKeMoT View Post
    except they are Loma is a natural featherweight fighting at lightweight against all bigger longer stronger top ten boxers in the division and dominating he has dropped or stopped everybody he fought Linares is a 4 time 3 weight champion who was undefeated for five years and ducked by Mikey and Loma got injured at the start still stopped him being outweighed by atleast 15 pounds probably 20 pounds then Pedraza was right after surgery no right hooks used was careful with the shoulder still dropped him twice only had 13% of punches landed on him weightdrained Jose landed double the amount of punches on Tank in half the rounds then Crolla who Loma did not want to fight he wanted Commey but he was injured so he was forced to fight his mandatory former champion Crolla and dropped and stopped him easy didnt even get hit under 10% then Campbell Olympic gold medalist in his home country with every physical advantage possible height reach length power size weight everything except age they were the same and Loma won almost every round dominated dropped him once almost stopped him but Luke went for the takedown to avoid getting stopped holding on to his legs to survive to the end all of these guys were much bigger than Loma and had every physical advantage over him all in the top ten now Lopez fought Commey who Loma was supposed to fight but still beat him after injury whatever and Haney never beat anybody to be champion he was still interim but got elevated when Loma got upgraded to franchise to make the Lopez fight for undisputed
    No he is not. He fought at 132 in the amateurs and on the wbs. He is a full fledged lightweight, he has been for awhile.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by garfios View Post
      No he is not. He fought at 132 in the amateurs and on the wbs. He is a full fledged lightweight, he has been for awhile.
      132 in the amateurs is 126 in the pros they dont cut weight try again casual same for the WBS

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      • #13
        Originally posted by garfios View Post
        No he is not. He fought at 132 in the amateurs and on the wbs. He is a full fledged lightweight, he has been for awhile.
        as I said Loma fought above his natural weight in the amateurs and in the WBS aswell for sure

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        • #14
          If Loma was 15-0, I might get excited, but he's not. He got beat by an old guy with 12 losses. Loma makes the B team look easy, but his numbers are short. If Lopez tags him it will be 15-2. How does that stack up to any of the greats?

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          • #15
            Originally posted by garfios View Post
            No he is not. He fought at 132 in the amateurs and on the wbs. He is a full fledged lightweight, he has been for awhile.
            Loma will never be a full fledged lightweight in size he is the smallest lightweight ever in size which is why everybody says he is too small for lightweight now

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            • #16
              Originally posted by crold1 View Post
              Which divisions have quality is always debatable but it's still preferable to have all top ten guys in a divisional run. If he goes straight to Two next, that's five for five. Relative to what is available in his weight, hard to ask for much more.
              The one thing that should leave a bad taste in the mouth is Bob Arum telling Devin Haney that he signed with the wrong promoter.

              Then when he the WBC actually made Haney the #1 contender to Lomachenko and it looked like an intriguing cross-platform/cross-promotional fight might actually be ordered...Arum asks for Franchise Champion designation and the WBC agrees.

              The games and smoke and mirrors that are used to avoid dangerous fights in boxing is beyond ridiculous. I wish the media would take a hard line and single out the guilty parties more.

              I know it's risky to rock the boat and anger the power players. But this exactly why corruption flourishes.

              End of rant.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Corelone View Post
                If Loma was 15-0, I might get excited, but he's not. He got beat by an old guy with 12 losses. Loma makes the B team look easy, but his numbers are short. If Lopez tags him it will be 15-2. How does that stack up to any of the greats?
                he would be 15-0 if he didnt get cheated and robbed not his fault the guy missed weight and set the lowblow record still got outlanded and almost stopped sorry but after his next fight Loma will be 15-1 and Lopez will be 15-1 so that will be fine casual

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
                  The one thing that should leave a bad taste in the mouth is Bob Arum telling Devin Haney that he signed with the wrong promoter.

                  Then when he the WBC actually made Haney the #1 contender to Lomachenko and it looked like an intriguing cross-platform/cross-promotional fight might actually be ordered...Arum asks for Franchise Champion designation and the WBC agrees.

                  The games and smoke and mirrors that are used to avoid dangerous fights in boxing is beyond ridiculous. I wish the media would take a hard line and single out the guilty parties more.

                  I know it's risky to rock the boat and anger the power players. But this exactly why corruption flourishes.

                  End of rant.
                  your mad Top Rank finessed DAZN out of a purse bid its okay you will get over it but the real corruption is Haney using a broken system to get a mandatory position for Loma without beating anybody in the top twenty it makes no sense thankfully Arum requested for franchise so that did not happen imagine being forced to fight on DAZN instead of on your own network ESPN that would be outrageous especially being the unified P4P champion total bs
                  Last edited by ToMeKeMoT; 05-28-2020, 06:11 PM.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Corelone View Post
                    If Loma was 15-0, I might get excited, but he's not. He got beat by an old guy with 12 losses. Loma makes the B team look easy, but his numbers are short. If Lopez tags him it will be 15-2. How does that stack up to any of the greats?
                    undefeated is overrated means you havent fought anybody but Loma is still undefeated he never lost fairly in the pros and the amateurs but Loma takes boxers undefeated records away already has three about to be four soon
                    Last edited by ToMeKeMoT; 05-28-2020, 06:22 PM.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by ToMeKeMoT View Post
                      your mad Top Rank finessed DAZN out of a purse bid its okay you will get over it but the real corruption is Haney using a broken system to get a mandatory position for Loma without beating anybody in the top twenty it makes no sense thankfully Arum requested for franchise so that did not happen imagine being forced to fight on DAZN instead of on your own network ESPN that would be outrageous especially being the unified P4P champion total bs
                      They could have fought on ESPN. Eddie Hearn let Luke Campbell do it so why couldn't Haney?

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