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  • KTFOKING
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    #21
    Originally posted by Rip Chudd
    Broner wasn't a champ when Manny beat him. Or are we counting former champions?
    Just champions and former champions.

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    • KTFOKING
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      #22
      Originally posted by STREET CLEANER
      I meant when he first faced them. We know what happened next. This is what happens when great fighters face each other, you get great matches. Pac was in the upside of his career so he won almost all of them after that.

      In the first Morales fight Eric had the fight won. He was such a crowd pleaser that he took a chance. At the interview of the post fight he was asking Larry Merchant if he liked what he did and Larry said he loved it.

      Stuff of champions
      Pure greatness and an epic moment no boxing fan watching that fight live will forget. Morales was and will always be one of my favorites.

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      • hugh grant
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        #23
        Originally posted by BangEM
        LMAO at Bradley and Thurman. HGH head Bradley with the huge head and pillow fist that ducked Amir Khan and got his skull destroyed by Provodnikov?
        Look at Bradley's record when Pac faced him. A poll here about who had toughest opponent out of pac and Floyd between Floyd fighting cotto and Pac fighting bradley, Bradley win tougher opponent.

        Pac ruined bradley. Bradley tried going macho against providnikov to prove point it backfired.

        But the thing with Floyd is, he would know how many champs he's beaten, when he was fighting who he was fighting he knew what he was doing, he knew what the aim and goal was. And if you asked Pac how many champs he beat he probably wouldn't be able to tell you. Pac probably fought tougher opponents who hadn't been champs. How good the champs were when Floyd beat them is questionable
        Last edited by hugh grant; 05-27-2020, 03:54 PM.

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        • Rip Chudd
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          #24
          Originally posted by KTFOKING
          Just champions and former champions.
          oh ok. I think where those former champs were at should matter as well. Like Floyd beating Berto, nothing at all significant about that win although Berto was an ex champ

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          • Rip Chudd
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            #25
            Originally posted by hugh grant
            Look at Bradley's record when Pac faced him. A poll here about who had toughest opponent out of pac and Floyd between Floyd fighting cotto and Pac fighting bradley, Bradley win tougher opponent.

            Pac ruined bradley. Bradley tried going macho against providnikov to prove point it backfired.

            But the thing with Floyd is, he would know how many champs he's beaten, when he was fighting who he was fighting he knew what he was doing, he knew what the aim and goal was. And if you asked Pac how many champs he beat he probably wouldn't be able to tell you. Pac probably fought tougher opponents who hadn't been champs. How good the champs were when Floyd beat them is questionable
            Bro stop, Pac didn't ruin Bradley. Him going balls out against Provodnikov had nothing to do with anything Pacquiao did, it was because fans were questioning him after that gift he received as well as the death threats and crap like that.

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            • Roadblock
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              #26
              Originally posted by hugh grant
              Like for like Pac has fought better fighters. Floyd always had the record on his mind and was methodical choosing opponents to achieve a high champion figure but they weren't necessarily the toughest opponent available like pacs.I

              Having to beat the barreras, jmms, morales and Bradley and thurman at 41 to get champs on record is a infinitely harder gig than Floyd s one off, fights against the ortiz, and bertos, guerrer o and maidana of this world.
              He hasnt fought " better " fighters, paper resume quality they pretty much the same the differences are in the conditions of the matches and the form leading into the fights.

              You live of a name with no honor, you would be a real life Charlie Zelenoff bsing about beating a NAME you would claim even if a guy was 60 on crutches.

              When you start analyzing a fighter beyond just his name the lights are turned on to their fight form, were they vulnerable or to be avoided, was the opponent under any weight handicaps etc etc , just like reading the form of a racehorses its his last 3 runs before the big race is all that matters in the present race.

              Anyone on this forum want to debate me resume for resume fight for fight , Floyd has the better resume and its very easy to prove if you dig under the surface.

              But like the thread leaves out that Floyd was leading while they were both fighting its a obvious no brainer Manny can end up with more Championship wins.

              The OP in his hast to beat Floyd claims a winner after one is retired and one still fighting , the lengths you idiots go to to try and discredit FM is amazing.

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              • RuleOfTheSpear
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                #27
                It's amazong how Pac did that considering he came right out of a jungle.

                Meanwhile Floyd had a boxing dynasty behind him and served everything on a silver platter.

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                • Ritz Kola
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by BangEM
                  How about count the number of losses and draws?

                  Manny Pacquiao = 7 losses and 2 draws

                  Floyd Mayweather = 0


                  Or we can go with the ratio of championship fights and total number of fights:


                  Manny Pacquiao = 71 fights and 26 championship fights.

                  Floyd Mayweather = 50 fights and 23 championship fights.


                  No matter how you spin it, Floyd towers above Manny "Steroids" Pacquiao
                  Wait did you just make sense?

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                  • CHOWWOKKA
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                    #29
                    Since when do we count international and regular titles as chmpions?

                    Manny Pacquiao also beat the manilla mauler champion in the 90's. Let's add that title too..

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                    • Ritz Kola
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                      #30
                      Nah Floyd still leads the pack. In a third less the amount of fights.
                      Op counting former champs & and vacant belts. If you know boxing than a vacant belt don't count for obvious reasons.
                      Op is also counting NON-MAJOR WORLD TITLE belts. Floyd never bothered cherrypicking and inflating his actual resume with belts that weren't major world titles, but Manny cherrypicked and fluffed his resume up with them.
                      So MINUS:
                      -vacant belts (there was no champion)
                      -minor belts that aren't Major World Titles
                      -former champs
                      Floyd still leads the pack. Without question. Knowing Boxing & doing research are all you need if you disagree. The facts reman on my side.
                      Now hate blatantly biased op made this thread about who won more "championship Bouts" as opposed to who beat more champions. Then his argument would've made more sense. And even then, only sticking Major Word Titles- Floyd won more.

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