So by your logic 50 yr old Luis Ortiz vs Mike Tyson is a 50-50 fight?

[JakeTheBoxer]

Who? Who the **** gives credit for any of those wins?


You mean when a mother ****er tries to pretend like Rahman was good win for Wlad or some ****?

Why not?

But You give Mike Tyson a credit for...what? Beating Tucker?

[Marchegiano]

Why not?

But You give Mike Tyson a credit for...what? Beating Tucker?

Undisputed plus 9 defenses, similar to how I give Wlad credit for a decade reign, but this isn't about me.

I thought you were gonna quote some other joker bragging on old men on resumes. I didn't mean to rhetorically challenge you I meant to get shown the prick what says Ali was still great when Holmes beat him.

I don't think resume is the only thing that grants greatness and I'd assume any mother ****er trying to pretend like Holmes was a resume win for Mike or Ali was for Holmes probably is banking their entire stance on resume. - I was honestly curious who'd make that argument.

[PRINCEKOOL]

If Mike Tyson was such a great fighter, why don`t McBride and Williams get any credit for stopping him?

Holmes got credit for stopping old Ali.
Mike got credit for stopping old Holmes.
Holyfield got credit for beating old Foreman and Holmes....

Have you seen those fights? Tyson was beating up Williams before he hurt his knee, was winning most the rounds against Mcbride 'A fight where his knee was still affecting him'.

Apart from Lennox Lewis & Evander Holyfield no other heavyweights of that era in my opinion could of beaten Mike Tyson, he was a dangerous fighter throughout his entire career.

Mike Tyson at any stage of his career was not a journey man. A peak Danny Williams was a better fighter than 90% of the fighters who Tyson Fury has beaten 'Danny Wiliams beat John Mcdermott twice' a fighter who took Tyson Fury into deep deep waters.

If it was not for Tyson knee injury, he would of beaten Williams 'he had him bouncing all over the ring like a pin-ball'.

Journey level fighters do not display these sort of intricate offensive skills.

Williams & Mcbride reacted to their wins against Tyson as if? They had achieved a life long dream. That was the magnitude of beating Mike Tyson, forget about PEOPLE look at how the fighters reacted 'It was as if they had won a world title when they beat Mike Tyson'. And they reacted like that because Mike Tyson was a great fighter.

This is Mike Tyson 3rd to last fight, THAT is no journey man 'That is a dangerous fighter'.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Have you seen those fights? Tyson was beating up Williams before he hurt his knee, was winning most the rounds against Mcbride 'A fight where his knee was still affecting him'.

Apart from Lennox Lewis & Evander Holyfield no other heavyweights of that era in my opinion could of beaten Mike Tyson, he was a dangerous fighter throughout his entire career.

Mike Tyson at any stage of his career was not a journey man. A peak Danny Williams was a better fighter than 90% of the fighters who Tyson Fury has beaten 'Danny Wiliams beat John Mcdermott twice' a fighter who took Tyson Fury into deep deep waters.

If it was not for Tyson knee injury, he would of beaten Williams 'he had him bouncing all over the ring like a pin-ball'.

Journey level fighters do not display these sort of intricate offensive skills.

Williams & Mcbride reacted to their wins against Tyson as if? They had achieved a life long dream. That was the magnitude of beating Mike Tyson, forget about PEOPLE look at how the fighters reacted 'It was as if they had won a world title when they beat Mike Tyson'. And they reacted like that because Mike Tyson was a great fighter.

This is Mike Tyson 3rd to last fight, THAT is no journey man 'That is a dangerous fighter'.

Re: McBride.

"At the end of the day", what is the moment everyone remembers?





That's ALL that matters.

[boliodogs]

I think Ortiz is exactly as old as he says he is.Why would he lie about his age? he doesn't get sent back to Cuba for being too old. He would easily KO Tyson in my opinion.Tyson really is 53.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Re: McBride.

"At the end of the day", what is the moment everyone remembers?





That's ALL that matters.

I am not everyone, and there are people out there who can think critically for themselves 'And don't buy into the myths that surround Tyson's career, the myth that he suddenly become a clown in the 90's, myth that all you had to do is show him some resistance then he would disappear, and the best one yet? That he was a journey man in the latter part of his career.

Mike Tyson not at any point in his career was he a journey man, neither was he a fighter who suddenly became a clown in the 90's 'He was always dangerous, all his opponents where always apprehensive' Because he as a dangerous fighter right up until the end.

I am not in this thread arguing that Tyson would be competitive today, just resisting some of the complete nonsense I see regarding his career in total.

[patron]

Thats not fair, we all know Ortiz is well into his 60s. Tyson by knock out.

[Combat Talk Radio]

I am not everyone, and there are people out there who can think critically for themselves 'And don't buy into the myths that surround Tyson's career, the myth that he suddenly become a clown in the 90's, myth that all you had to do is show him some resistance then he would disappear, and the best one yet? That he was a journey man in the latter part of his career.

Mike Tyson not at any point in his career was he a journey man, neither was he a fighter who suddenly became a clown in the 90's 'He was always dangerous, all his opponents where always apprehensive' Because he as a dangerous fighter right up until the end.

I am not in this thread arguing that Tyson would be competitive today, just resisting some of the complete nonsense I see regarding his career in total.

Tyson fought like a simp against Lennox Lewis. And that wasn't even at the full decline.

"Journeyman"? That's a bit much, but Late Career Tyson would have gotten that work from almost anyone because (by his own admission) he wasn't going in there on drugs anymore. Which took away the one advantage he had - no fear of dying in the ring.

I remember seeing him go the distance with Mitch Green thinking, you've got to be kidding me. If there were ever a better definition of a cherry pick it was Green. That was a PRIME Tyson that couldn't put him away.

Green was durable, but the man flat out could not box. And yet he took a prime Tyson the distance despite Tyson throwing for the fences.

That's when I knew: Tyson was smoke and mirrors. If you went in there afraid of him, you were getting knocked spark out (see Michael Spinks).

[REDEEMER]

Lol... "A New Hope", except this time it ain't Star Wars. "An Old Hope" perhaps?

Larry Holmes boxed to the age of 53 I believe with accumulated damage , Mike has not boxed in awhile and is far superior athletic fighter to Holmes but we’re suppose to believe he can’t be competitive?

Complete b.s really, he gives any top heavyweight a good fight at the very least for whatever rounds . My bet is he will hurt Holyfield if he wants to if they go through with it because just the fact Holyfield is pushing 60 ,it’s not hard to use some sense and know Mike goes through anyone near 50 including Ortiz or Briggs . The same Ortiz that went 17 rounds with Wilder in two fights .

[JakeTheBoxer]

Mike tyson couldn`t go through Danny Williams and McBride when he was 38 and still active fighter.