What are Floyd and Manny's best 3 wins each?

[RuleOfTheSpear]

Difficult to narrow down Pac's. Barrera, Morales, Marquez, Cotto, Bradley can all be considered in the top 3, Thurman too.

For Floyd it's Corrales, Cotto and Canelo. Cotto was softened up by Margo and Pac but still forced Floyd to dig deep. Canelo drained down to 152 and was still somewhat green, but he was a big name and Floyd defeated him easily.

I think for Pac, it's Barrera, Marquez, Bradley/Thurman. I don't count Morales because he was coming off a loss. I don't count Margarito because he was stopped by Mosley.

For Floyd, i think it's Canelo, Hatton, Corrales. I don't count Pac because he was coming off back2back losses to Bradley and Marquez. I don't count Cotto because he was already stopped by Margarito and Pac.

Those are the best wins on paper barring asterisks as much as possible.

[GhostofDempsey]

I think for Pac, it's Barrera, Marquez, Bradley/Thurman. I don't count Morales because he was coming off a loss. I don't count Margarito because he was stopped by Mosley.

For Floyd, i think it's Canelo, Hatton, Corrales. I don't count Pac because he was coming off back2back losses to Bradley and Marquez. I don't count Cotto because he was already stopped by Margarito and Pac.

Those are the best wins on paper barring asterisks as much as possible.

I have a difficult time picking Hatton. He was smaller, and Joe Cortez never allowed him to fight on the inside. Each time Ricky got close to Floyd Cortez pulled him away.

I would sooner choose the Castillo rematch, which was a definitive win after many people felt Castillo was robbed in the first fight.

[sargo]

Pacquiao - Barrera, Mayweather (BS decision), Thurman

Mayweather - Corrales, Castillo, Alvarez

[RuleOfTheSpear]

I have a difficult time picking Hatton. He was smaller, and Joe Cortez never allowed him to fight on the inside. Each time Ricky got close to Floyd Cortez pulled him away.

I would sooner choose the Castillo rematch, which was a definitive win after many people felt Castillo was robbed in the first fight.

The Castillo win is also good. But Hatton was coming off a stoppage win over Castillo and Joe Cortez was the same ref. He would sometimes allow some inside fighting and sometimes break it off early. The same with Mayweather.
He's really unreliable when it comes to timing of his breakoff. But his refereeing in both fights are more or less the same.

I really had a hard time deciding putting Hatton there. Because as you said, he was small. Just as Marquez was small for Floyd. It had the same circumstances as Mikey vs Spence (both Mikey and Marquez moved up two divisions to fight Floyd and Spence).
But Hatton was the best 140 fighter. And he only moved up a division.

That's why I'm kinda not that in awe of Floyd because most of his best wins are against guys who are smaller than him and/or the same size as him with the exception of Corrales. That's why everyone includes Corrales as his best win.

For Pac, all his best possible wins are against guys who are bigger than him with all the height, length, and/or weight advantage. Especially the Barrera fight because he was only the IBF superbantamweight champion, meanwhile Barrera was the best featherweight in the world (beat 35-0 Hamed, beat 41-0 Morales) and in the top 3 best p4p fighters at that time. His name is next to B-Hop and RJJ. And some would argue he was #1 p4p. Pac was unknown and a huge underdog. That's why many would include Barrera as his best win.

[Boxing_1013]

The Castillo win is also good. But Hatton was coming off a stoppage win over Castillo and Joe Cortez was the same ref. He would sometimes allow some inside fighting and sometimes break it off early. The same with Mayweather.
He's really unreliable when it comes to timing of his breakoff. But his refereeing in both fights are more or less the same.

I really had a hard time deciding putting Hatton there. Because as you said, he was small. Just as Marquez was small for Floyd. It had the same circumstances as Mikey vs Spence (both Mikey and Marquez moved up two divisions to fight Floyd and Spence).
But Hatton was the best 140 fighter. And he only moved up a division.

That's why I'm kinda not that in awe of Floyd because most of his best wins are against guys who are smaller than him and/or the same size as him with the exception of Corrales. That's why everyone includes Corrales as his best win.

For Pac, all his best possible wins are against guys who are bigger than him with all the height, length, and/or weight advantage. Especially the Barrera fight because he was only the IBF superbantamweight champion, meanwhile Barrera was the best featherweight in the world (beat 35-0 Hamed, beat 41-0 Morales) and in the top 3 best p4p fighters at that time. His name is next to B-Hop and RJJ. And some would argue he was #1 p4p. Pac was unknown and a huge underdog. That's why many would include Barrera as his best win.

Yeah the irony with Floyd is as he traversed the weights...he never really was in there with anyone much bigger or even bigger than him...just kind of interesting how it all worked out.

[Larry the boss]

Floyd’s wins over PAC and Canelo have big asterisks. Neither in their prime.

I’d say for a best win it would have to be an opponent close to in his prime.

If PAC beat Floyd it would only be big due to the undefeated aspect, but lots of folks would claim that Floyd wasn’t in his prime, because neither were. But especially Manny. Manny changed completely after the Marquez KO. He became...domesticated.

Yet is 2020 Manny is still top 10 p4p and world champ...

[creekrat77]

1) Morales 3 times coming off loses nearly done.
2) Cotto CW 2 soft fights from a cheat beat down.
3) Margarito Out for 2 yrs coming of KO loss and D grade win at a CW of 150 .

To say they are Mannys best says alot about his resume.

You have to be objective to how thoroughly he beat them.
Maidana in his prime threw everything but the kitchen sink and won by the skin of his teeth. Danny Garcia went 12 rounds with him and was able to get the stoppage in a rematch. This mind you was Morales after a 3 year lay off with a mediocre comeback where his best win was a loss in an absolute war with Maidana.

Most people believe Margarito had loaded gloves when he first beat Cotto. Either way, both Margarito and Cotto were the most dangerous welterweights at that time. Floyd retired of course after beating Hatton and was MIA as far as facing them. Pacquiao in the mean time obliterated both Oscar and Hatton after Floyd's close SD win and late stoppage. Despite those great performances over opponents Floyd was evenly matched against, Pac then moving up to welterweight again to demolish Cotto was even more noteworthy. Nobody dominated Cotto like Pac did excluding Margarito who was evidently a cheater. Cotto would then have a very successful career despite being severely "damaged" as you say from Margarito (and now Pac). A career so successful that he would lose a very close fight to Canelo and an even closer fight to Floyd.

Pac as won his first title at flyweight and moved all the way up to light middleweight. Margarito because of his brawling style and chin represented a very hard style match up for Pac considering the added size disadvantage. Margarito's resume up unto that point was a stoppage win over the current lineal middleweight champion Sergio, stoppage win over an undefeated Cotto, 2 stoppage wins over Kermit Cintron and a close fight with the greatly avoided Paul Williams at welterweight. Shane Mosley was his worst loss where the drama between the hand wraps prior to the walk out may have contributed to his lackluster performance. In his fight with Pacquiao he lost every round by a wide margin and took one of the worst beatings in boxing history, to a guy who was a natural lightweight.

[Roadblock]

I have a difficult time picking Hatton. He was smaller, and Joe Cortez never allowed him to fight on the inside. Each time Ricky got close to Floyd Cortez pulled him away.

I would sooner choose the Castillo rematch, which was a definitive win after many people felt Castillo was robbed in the first fight.

Hatton was not smaller do you want to debate me on it, Ive shown it many times and its in Rickys book where he explains it.

Floyd was 152 and Hatton was 153 fight night.

Hatton was 159 against Collazo and 153 against Tyzsu.

You could not lie straight in bed.

[Chuckguy]

Lmfao at all these ******s putting a past prime shop warn pac as Floyd’s best win haha

I’d say the same sh it if pac beat that version of floyd

Floyd
Corrales
Castillo
Hernandez

Pac
Barrera
Morales
Jmm

[Thraxox]

Pacquiao: Barrera, Marquez, Bradley.

Mayweather: Canelo, Pacquiao, Hernandez/Corrales