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  • #11
    Also, three pounds below 155? I mean the LMW limit is 154. It was two pounds below the limit the fight prior he fought at 153.5. Obviously it would have suited him better to fight at 154 and not 152, but Canelo three years after the Floyd fight made the 154 limit. He flat out just got beat and schooled at spots. Again, of course he would have loved 154, but no where in that fight did it look like he was drained or didn't have the stamina because of the weight cut. In fact, he threw more punches later in the Floyd fight than he did against Trout the fight prior. Less than a year later he got the decision against a very good fighter in Lara. Canelo wasn't no novice when he fought Floyd. Heck, he had over 40 fights at that time and was the same age Floyd was when he had arguably his best performance against Corrales and older than what Hearns was when he fought SRL.

    Floyd's performance over Canelo was one of the best in the last 15 years bar none. As for Floyd's top three wins, I can you can pick from Canelo, Pacquiao, Corrales, Castillo, Hatton and Mosley.

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    • #12
      Pac
      1) Morales
      2) Cotto
      3) Margarito

      Floyd
      1) Corrales
      2) Canelo
      3) Pac

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      • #13
        Difficult to narrow down Pac's. Barrera, Morales, Marquez, Cotto, Bradley can all be considered in the top 3, Thurman too.

        For Floyd it's Corrales, Cotto and Canelo. Cotto was softened up by Margo and Pac but still forced Floyd to dig deep. Canelo drained down to 152 and was still somewhat green, but he was a big name and Floyd defeated him easily.

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        • #14
          You’re only triggering more hate replies in this thread

          But for the topic, I’d say Floyd’s best wins are Pac, Canelo and Mosley

          For Manny, it’s gonna be Barrera, Marquez, and Cotto

          With or without asterisks

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Ca$ual Fan View Post
            You’re only triggering more hate replies in this thread

            But for the topic, I’d say Floyd’s best wins are Pac, Canelo and Mosley

            For Manny, it’s gonna be Barrera, Marquez, and Cotto

            With or without asterisks
            I mean I know they have huge tribal fanbases...but I was genuinely curious who most felt were their top 3 wins.
            Last edited by Boxing_1013; 05-18-2020, 07:37 PM.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by creekrat77 View Post
              Pac
              1) Morales
              2) Cotto
              3) Margarito

              Floyd
              1) Corrales
              2) Canelo
              3) Pac
              1) Morales 3 times coming off loses nearly done.
              2) Cotto CW 2 soft fights from a cheat beat down.
              3) Margarito Out for 2 yrs coming of KO loss and D grade win at a CW of 150 .

              To say they are Mannys best says alot about his resume.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by KTFOKING View Post
                Oh no, if Pac beat Floyd he would have gotten full credit. The not in prime only works one way in that match up.
                No it’s a fact that the Floyd fans here would start claiming Floyd wasn’t in his prime. That’s a given.
                There’s a lot of Floyd fanboys here.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by KTFOKING View Post
                  Oh no, if Pac beat Floyd he would have gotten full credit. The not in prime only works one way in that match up.
                  I'm pretty neutral on the whole Floyd/Pac situation...I agree that I would have given Manny more credit than vice versa had he won that fight...for 2 main reasons...1) Floyd was undefeated and Manny wasn't and 2) Floyd was seen by most, myself included, as having put off the fight for 5 years or whatever it was...so him losing would look bad, like he was trying to wait Manny out yet couldn't do it...him winning, in a way, just looked like he finally timed Manny's decline and took the fight then.

                  Originally posted by KTFOKING View Post
                  Also, three pounds below 155? I mean the LMW limit is 154. It was two pounds below the limit the fight prior he fought at 153.5. Obviously it would have suited him better to fight at 154 and not 152, but Canelo three years after the Floyd fight made the 154 limit. He flat out just got beat and schooled at spots. Again, of course he would have loved 154, but no where in that fight did it look like he was drained or didn't have the stamina because of the weight cut. In fact, he threw more punches later in the Floyd fight than he did against Trout the fight prior. Less than a year later he got the decision against a very good fighter in Lara. Canelo wasn't no novice when he fought Floyd. Heck, he had over 40 fights at that time and was the same age Floyd was when he had arguably his best performance against Corrales and older than what Hearns was when he fought SRL.

                  Floyd's performance over Canelo was one of the best in the last 15 years bar none. As for Floyd's top three wins, I can you can pick from Canelo, Pacquiao, Corrales, Castillo, Hatton and Mosley.
                  Man...that's an interesting POV lol...I agree that it was a good performance from Floyd...and in a way I think Canelo may always be a good matchup for Floyd - either he doesn't have the ability to brawl like Maidana or JLC, or he may not use the right gameplan...he may try to box Floyd.

                  And as good as Canelo is, we know that isn't really the way to beat Floyd...especially since Canelo struggles with inactivity in his fights...would be hard for him to ever convincingly outbox Floyd, similar for me to his issues vs GGG and Lara and some others...he can dazzle you at times and it is hard to completely dominate him, but at the same time he doesn't dominate much.

                  155 vs 154 is important because it is at 155 pounds that we know who Canelo is...that is where he fought his fights and had good performances.

                  Floyd only made him come down 2 pounds from the JMW weight limit...but 3 pounds from his 'Canelo-weight' where he proved himself as a top fighter.

                  It would be like if Maravilla fought all his fights at MW at 158 pounds...and then Cotto challenged him at 154...that is 6 pounds below the MW limit, but only 4 for Maravilla and where he was fighting.

                  I think Floyd was great...but he definitely played the A-side role in his Money May days...and God Bless him, he made the right call money-wise on all that.

                  But at the same time, fighting a green Canelo at 152 is not the same difficulty as facing Canelo a few years later at a weight Canelo preferred.

                  Doing the best thing money-wise does not always, or even usually, equate to taking the biggest risks...and that is where we really have to judge guys and what they've done.

                  Age aside...if Floyd came back and faced Canelo at 160 after Canelo-GGG 2...and outboxed him...that is where people would have to give Floyd credit no matter what...but facing a green guy who everyone could see was going to have a great/well-managed career...and doing it 3 pounds below where he felt comfortable...I mean why are we supposed to get overly excited about that man.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by 4truth View Post
                    I thought for sure that Oscar would be on everyone's list for Floyd. That was a huge win against a much bigger quality opponent who was not completely shot.
                    I can't tell if you're being tongue-in-cheek lol

                    Originally posted by HewJohnson View Post
                    No it’s a fact that the Floyd fans here would start claiming Floyd wasn’t in his prime. That’s a given.
                    There’s a lot of Floyd fanboys here.
                    Originally posted by HewJohnson View Post
                    Floyd’s wins over PAC and Canelo have big asterisks. Neither in their prime.

                    I’d say for a best win it would have to be an opponent close to in his prime.

                    If PAC beat Floyd it would only be big due to the undefeated aspect, but lots of folks would claim that Floyd wasn’t in his prime, because neither were. But especially Manny. Manny changed completely after the Marquez KO. He became...domesticated.
                    Agreed...good posts Hew

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Roadblock View Post
                      1) Morales 3 times coming off loses nearly done.
                      2) Cotto CW 2 soft fights from a cheat beat down.
                      3) Margarito Out for 2 yrs coming of KO loss and D grade win at a CW of 150 .

                      To say they are Mannys best says alot about his resume.
                      What would you say are Floyd's 3 best wins? One could probably make similar arguments about them

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