Comments Thread For: Robles: After Beating Joshua, Andy Ruiz Was a Different Person Overnight

[Chuckguy]

I was referring to fans hating, not Robles. Robles has been compared to Abel Sanchez.. read it on the forum

Are you serious?? Lmfao no comparison. Abel is a fawking hateful snake this dude seems to be ok with fatsican moving on

[Ray*]

You also need to have the mental stability to deal with everything that makes you a champion. Mentally Ruiz showed a lot of weakness in that aspect. He allowed the trappings of the PBC cult to get to him. We started seeing a different Ruiz after the first fight. The way he talked, walked etc

Things that we didn’t see from him before, he was now one of the top names if not the top name at PBC, he was being told things, whispering in his ears, he too started acting delusional and saying things out of character. The downfall was plain to see at the weigh in, even then we were told it’s 283 on purpose. After he got boxed off he then came out and made excuses about not training.

[Oshio]

Joshua made 25 million from the fight... How much did Fury and Wilder make in their rematch?

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Yeah you're right about styles making fights but Andy would have beat Parker if they were anywhere else besides New Zealand. Whyte and Povetkin are not big guys compared to Ruiz I think he matches up well with those guys too with Povetkin being the better skilled fighter than Whyte just at this point a little old and Whyte is still a good puncher.

So I don't see what you are trying to say about these big guys the only 2 that I see giving an in shape Ruiz problems are Fury and Wilder I'd say it would be 70-30 in Furys favor and 50-50 with Wilder. Fury really likes to feint a lot and he drops his hands when he does that so Ruiz could still have success but I think his movement combined with his range would be pretty hard to overcome.

With Wilder he stands a better chance Wilder doesn't have that great an inside game not that many Heavyweights do so if Ruiz could close distance he can touch him up for sure Wilder has a good jab and a lethal right hand so if he can keep range I could see him being the first to stop Ruiz also that's why I say it's a closer fight.

Joyce, DDD , Hrgovic ,Mahkmudov all these guys are untested at championship level. I know Joyce had a good amateur career and did the WSB but damn that dude is slow as **** I have no idea how he achieved so much he looked terrible in the Jennings fight I'd say Ruiz knocks him out in under 6. Hrgovic looks good but hasn't had that type of fight yet to say he would beat a top 5 same with Dubois lets see him and Joyce and then it would a step closer to determining. The only fight of Mahkmudov I've seen is him beating a fat Sam Peter who had been knocked out by Robert Helenius like a decade before who necks.

Ruiz or anyone not 6”3 is in all likelihood not winning a title unless they fight guys under 6”5 . We all know AJ had an off night and it allowed for an upset, but beyond that if a big man who can box fights Ruiz he’s going to win if he’s at least championship material . In boxing an inch could be a mile , it’s why Ruiz literally had no chance against AJ in the rematch, it’s why guys even over 6”5 look small next to Fury ,it’s why most dominant heavyweights of their era had a size advantage the majority of the time ,even Wilder has shown this despite lacking a certain skill set standing 6”7 ,it also comes with an 83 inch reach ,Ruiz wouldn’t have the foot speed to close the distance on Wilder.

I’d be shocked if Ruiz defeated anyone I mentioned that is over 6”4 .

[R_Walken]

No one should be Surprised by Ruiz

Ruiz has elite level skill but is A Monday morning Quarterback when it comes to work ethic , Focus and dedication even when he wasn’t the Champ

Ruiz showed against AJ he has the Talent and ability that he can potentially beat almost any HW but the rematch showed he’s real lazy when things go good

It’s not even a knock on Ruiz almost everyone does it , Takes a foot off the gas Thinking yesterday’s hard work will compensate for taking it easy Today And won’t effect reaching tomorrow’s goal

the ability to stay Just as hungry is what separates the good from the greats.

Mayweather / Hopkins / Micheal Jordan / Kobe Bryant / Tom Brady never allowed themselves to think what they achieved in the past would automatically happen again In the future , and allow themselves to get complacent in the Present Because the hard work Had already been done

[Kannabis Kid]

Ruiz or anyone not 6”3 is in all likelihood not winning a title unless they fight guys under 6”5 . We all know AJ had an off night and it allowed for an upset, but beyond that if a big man who can box fights Ruiz he’s going to win if he’s at least championship material . In boxing an inch could be a mile , it’s why Ruiz literally had no chance against AJ in the rematch, it’s why guys even over 6”5 look small next to Fury ,it’s why most dominant heavyweights of their era had a size advantage the majority of the time ,even Wilder has shown this despite lacking a certain skill set standing 6”7 ,it also comes with an 83 inch reach ,Ruiz wouldn’t have the foot speed to close the distance on Wilder.

I’d be shocked if Ruiz defeated anyone I mentioned that is over 6”4 .

Lol Mike Tyson was 5'10 with a 71'' reach height only matters if you can't close the distance Ruiz aside from the Joshua rematch usually is not that slow on his feet despite his appearance.

You say Joshua had an off night he just lost dude plain and simple got overzealous in an exchange and paid for it I hate how that's always what people say when a fighter they liked lost yeah he won the rematch without a doubt but you can't say that Andy was in the same shape or mindset as the first fight he lost so that's why its 1-1 those 2 are going to have a trilogy that will determine who is the better fighter until then you can't just base it off what AJ did because it wasn't really that great.

Tyson Fury is an anomaly what other fighter that height moves like that I already said he would be a big favorite over Ruiz but to say anyone under 6'5 can't beat him is comical like that 1 inch is going to make that much of a difference how is it that 6'3 Cruiserweight USS Cunningham was able to floor Fury with 1 shot? Is he a different type of 6'3 than other people must be according to your standards lol. Neven Pajkic is also 6'3 and he did the same if those guys had more firepower they could have possibly beat him but Steve was never a puncher and I honestly don't know much about Pajkic but seems the same.

What you should say is reach but even then some fighters don't fight at distance Joseph Parker has a 76'' reach Andy is only 74'' yet that was a very close fight how was Andy able to close the distance if he's so short lol because Parker is that threshold you set 6'4. Also Otto Wallin is 6'5 with only 4 more inches of reach than Andy yet he was able to tag Tyson Fury repeatedly. Styles make fights you can't just say these people can't win because of height. There is only 3 championship level tall guys at Heavyweight (Fury, Wilder, and Joshua) and 2 of them have already lost and the other has been on the floor multiple times) anything is possible man.

Messed up on Wallins reach thats why I edited

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Lol Mike Tyson was 5'10 with a 71'' reach height only matters if you can't close the distance Ruiz aside from the Joshua rematch usually is not that slow on his feet despite his appearance.

You say Joshua had an off night he just lost dude plain and simple got overzealous in an exchange and paid for it I hate how that's always what people say when a fighter they liked lost yeah he won the rematch without a doubt but you can't say that Andy was in the same shape or mindset as the first fight he lost so that's why its 1-1 those 2 are going to have a trilogy that will determine who is the better fighter until then you can't just base it off what AJ did because it wasn't really that great.

Tyson Fury is an anomaly what other fighter that height moves like that I already said he would be a big favorite over Ruiz but to say anyone under 6'5 can't beat him is comical like that 1 inch is going to make that much of a difference how is it that 6'3 Cruiserweight USS Cunningham was able to floor Fury with 1 shot? Is he a different type of 6'3 than other people must be according to your standards lol. Neven Pajkic is also 6'3 and he did the same if those guys had more firepower they could have possibly beat him but Steve was never a puncher and I honestly don't know much about Pajkic but seems the same.

What you should say is reach but even then some fighters don't fight at distance Joseph Parker has a 76'' reach Andy is only 74'' yet that was a very close fight how was Andy able to close the distance if he's so short lol because Parker is that threshold you set 6'4. Also Otto Wallin is 6'5 with only 4 more inches of reach than Andy yet he was able to tag Tyson Fury repeatedly. Styles make fights you can't just say these people can't win because of height. There is only 3 championship level tall guys at Heavyweight (Fury, Wilder, and Joshua) and 2 of them have already lost and the other has been on the floor multiple times) anything is possible man.

Messed up on Wallins reach thats why I edited

Please tell me you aren’t going to use Mike as a gage for Ruiz, using Mike is absolutely laughable selling size ? Oh boy , why do you guys do this even Tyson today is explosive at least more at closing distance then current Ruiz far overweight to be that guy Mike was who would show everyone how inside fights done .

I had Ruiz winning the Parker fight that really doesn’t prove anything based on a guy over the 6”4 mark but you didn’t mention Parker is 6”4 that I checked he’s listed .


Certain guys will give Ruiz a chance ive already listed them , Hrgovic batters him silly , Wilder would just evade him with the quicker feet and possibly stop him , Fury plays with him , AJ just showed he can win easy while punishing him with minimal risk , Usyk is only 6”3 but his footwork is an absolute nightmare for a Ruiz .


I see no reason why he gets any title back the best known guy who’s actually blown up is Ortiz I have him favored over .

[Kannabis Kid]

Please tell me you aren’t going to use Mike as a gage for Ruiz, using Mike is absolutely laughable selling size ? Oh boy , why do you guys do this even Tyson today is explosive at least more at closing distance then current Ruiz far overweight to be that guy Mike was who would show everyone how inside fights done .

I had Ruiz winning the Parker fight that really doesn’t prove anything based on a guy over the 6”4 mark but you didn’t mention Parker is 6”4 that I checked he’s listed .


Certain guys will give Ruiz a chance ive already listed them , Hrgovic batters him silly , Wilder would just evade him with the quicker feet and possibly stop him , Fury plays with him , AJ just showed he can win easy while punishing him with minimal risk , Usyk is only 6”3 but his footwork is an absolute nightmare for a Ruiz .


I see no reason why he gets any title back the best known guy who’s actually blown up is Ortiz I have him favored over .

You said that nobody under 6'5 could compete at Heavyweight I used Mike as a reference to show that height and reach don't always matter they help of course but you were the one who brought up height that is why I brought up Tyson.

I never compared Tyson to Ruiz where did you get that from. There are other fighters that had some success at Heavyweight who were not that tall either David Tua beat some solid fighters and he is only 5'10 same with James Toney. Joe Frazier was 5'11 and even Samuel Peter is 6 ft and he had Wladimir flopping around the ring.

Usyk looked like garbage in his Heavyweight debut to me can't even mention him until he fights a live opponent I don't think Dereck Chisora is the right fight either he should win that pretty easy 5 years ago maybe but right now Usyk plays it safe and boxes a clean 12. Eric Molina was tagging Hrgovic and he was fighting scared haha imagine an actual game fighter we shall see I dont think Mario Heredia proves much and I don't think he will be champion but that's just me.