Has floyd ever fought without any advantage at welterweight?

[Roadblock]

you mean the lower level guys? sure i would agree to that but so? what about the best guys he fought? corrales, castillo, pac, hoya, mosley, cotto, canelo. none of those guys were coming off their best wins so i dont know who you are talking about. baldomir?

They wasnt coming of loses like a long list of Mannys .


I crack up when I see the sht you and that other peabrain Hugh write, you 2 are the biggest kettles calling the pot black.

[Real King Kong]

really? that movie was dope, and I hate Russell Crowe

how is the other one better... ?

Well for starters, it had Brian Dennehy in it. On top of that, it was based on boxing.

[Daud]

Floyd was the big favorite in every fight he accepted. Or else he wouldn't have.

[daggum]

They wasnt coming of loses like a long list of Mannys .


I crack up when I see the sht you and that other peabrain Hugh write, you 2 are the biggest kettles calling the pot black.

why didnt you answer the question? dont do a tu quoquo fallacy since i never asserted that manny fought guys coming off their best wins

[daggum]

Floyd was the big favorite in every fight he accepted. Or else he wouldn't have.

he was only a slight favorite against corrales to be fair. we went through it a lil while back and pac was underdog in like 6 fights. i only mention this because floyd fans/ggg haters used the "ggg was favorite in all his fights, he never took risks" argument but when you turn it around on them...

[Larry the boss]

you are the one who constantly comes up with excuses. look what you just wrote you maniac. marquez was not at his best moving up 2 weight divisions to fight floyd. that is pure silliness. he was a good fighter but he was way more accostumed to the weight when he fought pac then when he fought floyd. denying that would be pure madness. even when he beat pac those guys werent at their best. pac had slowed down enough for marquez to get him which should tell you all you need to know about the next fight...

pac got ko'd by marquez, lost to floyd and lost to jeff horn. sorry thats not pac at his best now is it? was he still good? yes. did he land the better punches vs floyd? yes. even though he should have won that still doesnt mean he was at his best. just like floyd wasnt at his best when pac fought him.

canelo was champ at 152? i didnt know that was even a division! the guy barely beat austin trout at 154. why are you pretending like he was some great fighter at the time because of what he did later in his career?

hey guess what. margarito still has a better resume than floyd. he beat undefeated cotto and martinez. don't you dare say anything about being green or weight!

when Floyd fought Jmm was he not coming off of an almost 2 year retirement??? so was he at his best?

Canelo was 153 the fight before Floyd so to slam that win then I guy you have to slam Mannys cotto win right?

Margarito does not have a better resume then Floyd and no one but trolls would agree with that insane statement

cant try to call Manny shot or not a good win for Floyd when 5 years later he is still world champ and top 10 p4p

[Erroid]

His biggest advantage was having better preparation by only fighting twice a year on the same weekends, his opponents have zero idea they're about to hit the Mayweather lottery while he most likely knew ahead of time who he wanted to make sure it was even possible to schedule the fight on said weekends. It's also the perfect strategy watch your biggest threats get taken out in the meanwhile so they're no longer in the conversation.

[Larry the boss]

you mean the lower level guys? sure i would agree to that but so? what about the best guys he fought? corrales, castillo, pac, hoya, mosley, cotto, canelo. none of those guys were coming off their best wins so i dont know who you are talking about. baldomir?

Corrales was undefeated and top 10 p4p

Castillo was lineal 135 champ and floyd fought him his fight fight moving up

Mosely had just beat Margario and was p4p#3 and people said floyd would duck him after he got in the ring

Manny damn sure did not fight cotto coming off of a great win so that goes both ways right?

Manny fought an even older oscar and a lower weight

Canelo was a unified champ and once again people claimed floyd would duck him


not sure why you only try to use these standards for floyd but not others..makes 0 sense

[Daud]

he was only a slight favorite against corrales to be fair. we went through it a lil while back and pac was underdog in like 6 fights. i only mention this because floyd fans/ggg haters used the "ggg was favorite in all his fights, he never took risks" argument but when you turn it around on them...

I thought he easily beat Corrales as did many of us. Corales was a slow fighter with a big punch. Before Mayweather fought him fighters were beating him handedly up to the point he knocked him out. Watch Corrales-Robert Garcia. Garcia was out boxing him and in the corner he asked his trainer if he should knock him out. It was a mistake because Garcia went for the knockout and lost the title but if he kept boxing it would have been an easy fight.

[daggum]

when Floyd fought Jmm was he not coming off of an almost 2 year retirement??? so was he at his best?

Canelo was 153 the fight before Floyd so to slam that win then I guy you have to slam Mannys cotto win right?

Margarito does not have a better resume then Floyd and no one but trolls would agree with that insane statement

cant try to call Manny shot or not a good win for Floyd when 5 years later he is still world champ and top 10 p4p

larry ive told you this time and time again. you dont get special im old points or im coming out of my own self retirement points. what matters is beating opponents when they are at your best. stop using hte floyd was old excuse to explain it away. when floyd was prime he was fightin guys like baldomir, judah, and hatton. thats on him.

nice tu quoquo there with the cotto manny fight. we dont have to slam it but we can if you'd like even though its not the same thing. nice false equivalency there as well bonus points. floyd and canelo were champs at 154. manny was champ at 140 and cotto at 147 so they fought at a catchweight. same thing whiteaker and chavez did along with so many other fihts in boxing history but since you are the boxing historian when have 2 champs in the same weight fought at a catch weight?

margarito beat undefeated sergio martinez and undefeated miguel cotto. how is that not better than what floyd has? quality over quantity my friend and we know you can't argue weight or greeness on those since then you would have to take canelo off the board for floyd and that would leave you with a bunch of old dudes.

i never said pac wasnt good. i always said pac beat floyd but that still wasnt pac at his best now was it? if he was so great how come he got ktfo by a guy he had already beaten many times? how come he lost to jeff horn? was that happening to prime pac now?