For all y'all that talk like Mikey is dead, you're just hating for no reason. He's lost ONE fight. He's fought 7 or 8 straight people that have, or had belts, he even knocks people down!! So many top level fights go 12 rounds with no knockdowns. There's no reason to hate on a guy like that! I don't get it. Let someone try to be great before you judge them! There's ZERO wrong with the career of Mikey Garcia! Maybe the Spence fight, but who cares! He's striving to be great! Some aren't! STOP THE HATE PEOPLE!
For all y'all that talk like Mikey is dead, you're just hating for no reason. He's lost ONE fight. He's fought 7 or 8 straight people that have, or had belts, he even knocks people down!! So many top level fights go 12 rounds with no knockdowns. There's no reason to hate on a guy like that! I don't get it. Let someone try to be great before you judge them! There's ZERO wrong with the career of Mikey Garcia! Maybe the Spence fight, but who cares! He's striving to be great! Some aren't! STOP THE HATE PEOPLE!
He should have lost two, because I had Vargas winning.
He should have lost two, because I had Vargas winning.
How could you have Vargas winning that fight?! Sure I admit Mikey gassed a bit at the end. And that's a reoccurring issue he'll have to address if he wants to hang with the big boys. But Vargas hit the mat like a ton of bricks in that 5th round! Devastating knockdown. Just like he did to Dejan, just like he did to Easter. It's the same ol thing, Mikey hurts people period. I don't think he hurts Porter (and clearly not Spence). But Thurman is damaged goods, D Garcia can be hit, and Pac can definitely go to sleep in the right circumstances. Vargas was never the same afterwards. And too add.... I'm NOT saying Mikey beats all those guys (in fact I think Porter would destroy Mikey. But I think Mikey beats Thurman easily. And i think Pac and Danny G are toss up matches for him)...... but Vargas did not win by any means.
He should win some fights against decent WWs first ,everybody wants Manny but dont do anything to deserve a shot.
And to this comment, I see your point just a little bit. But Vargas IS a decent WW. He's THE best of the "non big names" we all discuss at WW. And Mikey did his thing at the lower divisions. So that's just how it works. You don't see Canelo stepping up to light heavy and fighting bums. He went straight to Kovalev. Same principle here, and you're a Canelo fan I assume. You should grasp this concept.
And to this comment, I see your point just a little bit. But Vargas IS a decent WW. He's THE best of the "non big names" we all discuss at WW. And Mikey did his thing at the lower divisions. So that's just how it works. You don't see Canelo stepping up to light heavy and fighting bums. He went straight to Kovalev. Same principle here, and you're a Canelo fan I assume. You should grasp this concept.
Maybe you are right ,but guy is not looking good at WW and there is no interest in this fight ,he realy should stick to 140 ,He shouldnt wait for pacmans decision and waste time.
How could you have Vargas winning that fight?! Sure I admit Mikey gassed a bit at the end. And that's a reoccurring issue he'll have to address if he wants to hang with the big boys. But Vargas hit the mat like a ton of bricks in that 5th round! Devastating knockdown. Just like he did to Dejan, just like he did to Easter. It's the same ol thing, Mikey hurts people period. I don't think he hurts Porter (and clearly not Spence). But Thurman is damaged goods, D Garcia can be hit, and Pac can definitely go to sleep in the right circumstances. Vargas was never the same afterwards. And too add.... I'm NOT saying Mikey beats all those guys (in fact I think Porter would destroy Mikey. But I think Mikey beats Thurman easily. And i think Pac and Danny G are toss up matches for him)...... but Vargas did not win by any means.
And then mike1010011's response which basically validates I wasn't going crazy with what I was watching:
Originally posted by mike1010011
It's interesting to see that you got the same exact card as myself and another poster,and gave basically the exact same reasons as to why those rounds went to Vargas. It seemed like the judges and announcers completely disregarded the bodywork,jabs,and right straights that Vargas was landing clean in the last 3rd of the fight.
And then mike1010011's response which basically validates I wasn't going crazy with what I was watching:
I'm not saying you're going crazy. But I will say that you two guys are the only people that feel that way. And I've not heard anybody (or groups of "anybody") discussing this as a bad decision. When bad decisions happen, it's noticed by the general public, and discussed. Nobody is talking about how he was robbed. Vargas HIMSELF knew what's up!! He said nothing but what a losing fighter says. HE knew he lost the fight. He gave the standard "I feel I won the fight", but who doesn't? Then he goes on to say Mikey is up there with the rest of the WWs (which I'm not so sure of yet either, we'll see). But that's what fighters do when they get that ass whooped. They try to downplay it. As if Mikey is elite, and losing to elite fighters is no shame. He didn't say "Mikey is no good and I was robbed". What else do you need to hear to see the obvious?!
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