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    #211
    Another interesting article.


    The Aftermath

    The fight itself played out as Malignaggi predicted, a dud. Mayweather controlling range by changing his looks consistently and never letting Manny come into range to let off combinations. Once Manny started to hesitate and give ground up Floyd would walk him down in spots. The Floyd that night was nowhere near the best Floyd I have seen and he still made it look easy. His footwork wasn’t the best, which was possibly his age catching up to him but still had that fantastic decision making.

    Now after the fight, can I say if you thought the fight was close, the last time you probably watched a boxing bout was when Tyson was fighting. Bottom line is it wasn’t close. In the lead up to the fight there were many arguments in the negotiation and rumors that Arum and Pacquaio wanted as much money as possible in the one go as they knew the fight wasn’t going to be competitive and they would not receive a rematch. As they didn’t get what they wished being the B side, there had to be controversy made to get a rematch and a second payday.

    After the fight Max Kellerman was shocked as well as the whole world was when Manny said in the ring he thought he won the fight. As Manny left the ring that night that argument was buried. In the post fight press conference at no point did he bring up the fact that he thought he won, but yet coming across convinced he did in the ring a couple hours before. Now he had said he had a tear in his shoulder instead as to reason why he didn’t win the fight. Coincidence??? In the pre fight health screening you state in the medical sheet to the commission whether you are carrying an injury or not. Manny chose to say no, with Floyd adding all the injuries he picked up over the years to his sheet. This can give you the option to get painkillers and shots before the fight. If not you can ask for a cortisone shot which is an anti-inflammatory for injuries. If Manny Pacquaio asked for this substance he would have received it. But for some reason asked for Toradol when he had also stated to the board he was not injured. Although I am not a doctor, there is not a huge difference in Toradol and Cortisone but yet he asked for the one he most likely knew he would not receive. Coincidence??

    The Mystery MRI

    The diagnosis claimed was a rotator cuff injury. Which aparently he fought with in the ring without any pain medication. I have met people who have torn their rotator cuff and even with pain killers can barely lift their arm up. But yet in the fight when Manny had Mayweather on the ropes he was throwing these wide punches and combinations with full power that is near impossible with a torn rotator cuff.

    After the fight there was much publicity on the MRI scan he had and the visits to top doctors in the Phillipines for his surgery. But yet the question remains, where is this mystery MRI? If David Haye can post a picture of his torn calf during surgery 24 hours after a fight, why cant we see this MRI? Surely if you want to put right the biggest disappointment of your career right you should show the world so every physician can see it and tell the world that he was impaired in the fight. But yet it remains hidden.


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    According to Greg Logan of Newsday, Aguilar also said that a questionnaire given to Pacquiao and Mayweather before the fight asked about preexisting injuries, and Pacquiao said he had none:

    “On that questionnaire, one question is: ‘Do you have an injury in your shoulder?’ He checked ‘No.’ Had he checked ‘Yes,’ our doctors could have followed up with additional questions. He could have shared the MRI with those doctors, and we could have figured out an opportunity for him to have the medication he claimed he needs.”


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    To me Manny Pacquiao has always been su****ious, because he could have made the Floyd Mayweather fight if he just agreed to take the test, but he refused and that is why the fight never happened in the first place. He put that question mark by his name when he rejected Olympic style drug testing.

    In what other sport can a pro athlete refuse to take drug testing and get away with it? It is wrong that Manny Pacquiao gets a pass for some reason. I am not saying the Pacman is dirty, but if he wanted to clear up the issue he would have started doing drug testing for everyone of his fights before he got knocked out cold by Juan Manuel Marquez.

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    Last edited by Roadblock; 05-18-2020, 03:24 AM.

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      #212
      Originally posted by Roadblock
      Even Hatton said he believes Manny is a PED user.

      Hatton spoke to Daily Star Online after a series of failed drug tests plagued the sport, including Jarrell Miller whose doping led to his withdrawal from a fight with Anthony Joshua.

      The Mancunian says the only boxer he ever suspected was Pacquiao, who has never failed a drugs test and who knocked out Hatton inside two rounds in 2009.

      "It's not for me to say, that was the rumour, and when you see him walking through the likes of De La Hoya, Margarito, Cotto and people like that, to then post-Mayweather fight.

      "He didn't perform against Mayweather, then he won on points, then he won on points, then he got beat by Horn, the Australian.

      "So if you wanted to be a cynic, you could say what went wrong there?

      “One minute you're blasting everybody, then he had to take the test, and then he got beat by Mayweather, then he kept beating everyone on points until eventually he got beat.

      "It doesn't look good when you look at it like that.”
      Evidence knobjockey, not hearsay knobjockey, there is proof Floyd had an IV, there is proof that the testosterone levels were not as they should have been

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        #213
        Originally posted by Shape up
        Evidence is provable, like clenelo being a PED cheat, that has been proven, do you understand, your viewpoint is opinion, clenelo was tested, found to be positive, suspended and will always be known to be a PED cheat, pacquaio has never tested positive, has never been given a TUE for breaking WADA rules, has never had questionable testosterone levels, big difference
        Nope. There’s no such thing in any sport nor meat contamination with anabolic steroids. Clenbuterol isn’t an Anabolic steroid. And WADA in 2019 finally acknowledged a threshold for meat contamination of 2ng, as long as the results conclude consistency with meat contamination. And Canelo always did advanced drug testing.

        Pacquiao refused per his own testimony on ESPN that it weakened him or that it isn’t good during training. Most world athletes in any sport would find that a comedy skit or something like “my dog ate my homework.”

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          #214
          Originally posted by roadblock
          another interesting article.


          The aftermath

          the fight itself played out as malignaggi predicted, a dud. Mayweather controlling range by changing his looks consistently and never letting manny come into range to let off combinations. Once manny started to hesitate and give ground up floyd would walk him down in spots. The floyd that night was nowhere near the best floyd i have seen and he still made it look easy. His footwork wasn’t the best, which was possibly his age catching up to him but still had that fantastic decision making.

          Now after the fight, can i say if you thought the fight was close, the last time you probably watched a boxing bout was when tyson was fighting. Bottom line is it wasn’t close. In the lead up to the fight there were many arguments in the negotiation and rumors that arum and pacquaio wanted as much money as possible in the one go as they knew the fight wasn’t going to be competitive and they would not receive a rematch. As they didn’t get what they wished being the b side, there had to be controversy made to get a rematch and a second payday.

          After the fight max kellerman was shocked as well as the whole world was when manny said in the ring he thought he won the fight. As manny left the ring that night that argument was buried. In the post fight press conference at no point did he bring up the fact that he thought he won, but yet coming across convinced he did in the ring a couple hours before. Now he had said he had a tear in his shoulder instead as to reason why he didn’t win the fight. Coincidence??? In the pre fight health screening you state in the medical sheet to the commission whether you are carrying an injury or not. Manny chose to say no, with floyd adding all the injuries he picked up over the years to his sheet. This can give you the option to get painkillers and shots before the fight. If not you can ask for a cortisone shot which is an anti-inflammatory for injuries. If manny pacquaio asked for this substance he would have received it. But for some reason asked for toradol when he had also stated to the board he was not injured. Although i am not a doctor, there is not a huge difference in toradol and cortisone but yet he asked for the one he most likely knew he would not receive. Coincidence??

          The mystery mri

          the diagnosis claimed was a rotator cuff injury. Which aparently he fought with in the ring without any pain medication. I have met people who have torn their rotator cuff and even with pain killers can barely lift their arm up. But yet in the fight when manny had mayweather on the ropes he was throwing these wide punches and combinations with full power that is near impossible with a torn rotator cuff.

          After the fight there was much publicity on the mri scan he had and the visits to top doctors in the phillipines for his surgery. But yet the question remains, where is this mystery mri? If david haye can post a picture of his torn calf during surgery 24 hours after a fight, why cant we see this mri? Surely if you want to put right the biggest disappointment of your career right you should show the world so every physician can see it and tell the world that he was impaired in the fight. But yet it remains hidden.
          proof knobjockey

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            #215
            Originally posted by Uncle Al..varez
            Nope. There’s no such thing in any sport nor meat contamination with anabolic steroids. Clenbuterol isn’t an Anabolic steroid. And WADA in 2019 finally acknowledged a threshold for meat contamination of 2ng, as long as the results conclude consistency with meat contamination. And Canelo always did advanced drug testing.

            Pacquiao refused per his own testimony on ESPN that it weakened him or that it isn’t good during training. Most world athletes in any sport would find that a comedy skit or something like “my dog ate my homework.”
            PERFORMANCE ENHANCING DRUGS, clenelo took clenbuterol which is a performance enhancing drug ******, he tested positive, he was suspended, he is a convicted drug cheat, that is proof

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              #216
              Originally posted by Shape up
              proof knobjockey
              The “proof” is that Pacquiao justified not doing advanced drug testing (WADA style asked by Brian Kenny) because giving blood weakened and also affected training. Those are PAC’s own words.

              Imagine Olympians saying the same thing, “we don’t agree because advanced drug testing isn’t fair.” Lol (hinders)

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                #217
                Originally posted by Uncle Al..varez
                Nope. There’s no such thing in any sport nor meat contamination with anabolic steroids. Clenbuterol isn’t an Anabolic steroid. And WADA in 2019 finally acknowledged a threshold for meat contamination of 2ng, as long as the results conclude consistency with meat contamination. And Canelo always did advanced drug testing.

                Pacquiao refused per his own testimony on ESPN that it weakened him or that it isn’t good during training. Most world athletes in any sport would find that a comedy skit or something like “my dog ate my homework.”
                Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez has been removed from the WBC’s rankings after the boxer refused to enroll in the organisation’s drug testing program. WBC president Mauricio Sulaiman confirmed the news this week and revealed Alvarez had decided against registering for their ‘clean boxing program.’

                Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2018/05/15/saul-...9/?ito=cbshare
                Twitter: https://twitter.com/MetroUK | Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MetroUK/

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                  #218
                  Originally posted by Shape up
                  PERFORMANCE ENHANCING DRUGS, clenelo took clenbuterol which is a performance enhancing drug ******, he tested positive, he was suspended, he is a convicted drug cheat, that is proof
                  Canelo had a nano trace of Clen ruled as Meat contamination and surrender all practices in giving hair. Conclusion was meat contamination. That was 78 days away. Pacquiao refused advanced drug testing against Mayweather.

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                    #219
                    Originally posted by Uncle Al..varez
                    The “proof” is that Pacquiao justified not doing advanced drug testing (WADA style asked by Brian Kenny) because giving blood weakened and also affected training. Those are PAC’s own words.

                    Imagine Olympians saying the same thing, “we don’t agree because advanced drug testing isn’t fair.” Lol (hinders)
                    That’s not proof ******

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                      #220
                      Originally posted by Shape up
                      Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez has been removed from the WBC’s rankings after the boxer refused to enroll in the organisation’s drug testing program. WBC president Mauricio Sulaiman confirmed the news this week and revealed Alvarez had decided against registering for their ‘clean boxing program.’

                      Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2018/05/15/saul-...9/?ito=cbshare
                      Twitter: https://twitter.com/MetroUK | Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MetroUK/
                      Canelo never acknowledged the WBC because after the Khan fight they only give GBP two weeks to make a deal with K2 or else purse bid, which means K2 was trying to get more money with a bid. So Canelo decided to reject the WBC all together and vacated. You can’t rank Canelo if he’s not fighting for the WBC.

                      You do realize Canelo was never fighting for the WBC belt in GGG1? Lol. He was still doing VADA for the other belts on the line. He didn’t want to pay any fees to the WBC. Derp derp derp.

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