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  • Marchegiano
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    Stiverne, Lineal, my list of HW champions

    I've posted this list quite a few times, I've not worked on it in years.

    There seems to be some confusion. I've seen posts confused about it and this morning I got a PM asking me directly, so, let me clear this up.

    This is a list of every major organization's champion. Yes, every lineal who ever held lineal is in the list. No, not every name on the list is a lineal or is meant to be presented as if they are.

    I think that's pretty clear, but, if you want to know more:

    Hellano***ai champions for the ancients, no gladiators on my list because gladiators were not champions.

    Figg's Amp until there are multiples then Broughton's until the PC forms.

    PC for everyone from Broughton to Sully

    from Sullivan to Johnson it's the USA titles

    from Johnson to now it's the major four global bodies.

    The colorline is the only exception I make. The "colored" titles were probably about IBO level at best, far as respect during their era goes, but also, racism. I'm not down to continue to pretend like Sam Langford was not a champion just because racists didn't want there to be two, or oh god maybe even a handful, of black men on top.

    Simply put, not just the lineal, but also, must be above what the current IBO is; all the major champions.


    List:



    Archaic Era

    Onomastos of Smyrna - 688, 684, 680, & 676 BC

    Daippos of Kroton - 672 BC

    Komaios of Megara - 652 BC

    Pythagoras of Samos - 588 BC

    Tissandros of Sicilian Naxos - 572, 568, 564, & 560 BC

    Praxidamas of Aigina - 544 BC

    Glaukos of Karystos - 520 BC

    Philon of Korkyra 500 & 496 BC

    Kleomedes of Astypalaia - 492 BC

    Diognetos of Crete - 488 BC

    Euthymos of Lokroi - 484 BC

    Theagenes of Thasos - 480 BC

    Classical Era

    Euthymos of Lokroi - 476 & 472 BC

    Menalkes of Opous - 468 BC

    Diagoras of Rhodes - 464 BC

    Akousilaos of Rhodes - 448 BC

    Alkainetos of Lepreon - 444 BC

    Kleomachos of Maiandros - 424 BC

    Eukles of Rhodes - 404 BC

    Demarchos of Parrhasia - 400 BC

    Phormion of Halikarnassos - 392 BC

    Eupalos of Thessaly - 388 BC

    Damoxenidas of Mainalos - 384 BC

    Illegible of Samos - 380 BC

    Labax of Lepreon - 376 BC

    Aristion of Epidauros - 368 BC

    Philammon of Athens - 360 BC

    Asamon of Elis - 340 BC

    Mys or Taras - 336 BC

    Satyros of Elis - 332 & 328 BC

    Hellenistic Era

    Archippos of Mytilene - 300 BC

    Kallippos of Rhodes - 296 BC

    Cleoxenus of Alexandria - 240 BC

    Kleitomachos of Thebes - 212 BC

    Roman Era

    Epitherses of Erythrai - 184 & 180 BC

    D [three illegible letters] gonos of Rhodes - 160 & 156 BC

    Xenothemis of Miletos - 144 BC

    Agesarchos of Tritia - 120 BC

    Atyanas of Adramyttion - 72 BC

    Thaliarchos of Elis - 32 BC

    Nikophon of Miletos - 8 BC

    Demokrates of Maiandros - 25, 29, & 33 AD

    Melankomas of Caria - 49 AD

    Herakleides of Alexandria - 93 AD

    Marcus Tullius of Apameia - 141 & 145 AD

    Photion of Ephesos - 173, 197, & 201 AD

    Horus of Egypt - 364 AD

    Varazdat of Armenia - 385 AD

    Banned by Theodosius I in 393 AD

    English Era

    The Unnamed Dark Age Butcher - 1681

    James 'The First' Figg - 1719

    Ned 'The Pipemaker' Sutton - 1724

    James 'The First' Figg - 1725

    Robert 'The Pugilist' Whittaker - 1725

    Nathaniel Peartree - 1726

    John Gritton - 1727

    Tom 'The Claimant' Pipes - 1730

    Bill Gretting - 1730

    Tom 'The Claimant' Pipes - 1730

    Bill Gretting - 1732

    Tom 'The Claimant' Pipes - 1733

    George 'The Barber' Taylor - 1734

    Jack 'The Father of Boxing' Broughton - 1736

    Jack 'The Norfolk Butcher' Slack - 1750

    William 'The Nailer' Stevens - 1760

    George 'The Collier' Meggs - 1761

    George 'The Baker' Millsom - 1762

    Tom 'The Pavior' Juchau - 1765

    William 'The Dyer' Darts - 1766

    Tom 'The Waterman' Lyons - 1769

    William 'The Dyer' Darts - 1769

    Peter 'The Irish' Corcoran - 1771

    Harry 'The West Countryman' Sellers - 1776

    Duggan 'Jack' Fearns - 1779

    Tom Johnson a.k.a Thomas Jackling - 1787

    Benjamin 'Big Ben' Brain - 1791

    Daniel 'The ***' Mendoza - 1794

    John 'Gentleman' Jackson - 1795

    Thomas 'The Fighting Oilman' Owen - 1796

    Jack 'Barty' Bartholomew - 1797

    Jem 'The Napoleon of the Ring' Belcher - 1800

    Henry "Hen the Game Chicken" Pearce - 1805

    John 'The Potter' Gully - 1807

    Tom 'The Black Diamond' Cribb - 1808

    Tom 'The ******ia Slave' Molineaux - 1810

    Tom 'The Light Tapper' Spring - 1823

    Tom Cannon 'The Great Gun of Windsor' - 1824

    Jem 'The Black Diamond' Ward - 1825

    Peter 'Young Rump Steak' Crawley - 1827

    Jem 'The Black Diamond' Ward - 1827

    James 'The Deaf'un' Burke - 1833

    Samuel O'Rourke - 1833

    William 'Bendigo' Thompson - 1839

    Ben 'The Torkard Giant' Caunt - 1840

    Nick Ward - 1841

    Ben 'The Torkard Giant' Caunt - 1841

    Tom 'The Butcherman' Hyer - 1841

    Daniel Knox - 1842

    William 'Bendigo' Thompson - 1845

    William 'The Tipton Slasher' Perry - 1850

    Harry 'The Unknown' Broome - 1851

    John 'Old Smoke' Morrissey - 1853

    Tom 'The Redditch Needlepointer' Paddock - 1856

    Tom 'The Brighton Boy' Sayers - 1858

    John 'The Benica Boy' Carmel Heenan - 1860

    Tom Curran - 1860

    Sam 'The Staleybridge Infant' Hurst - 1860

    Jem 'The Gypsy' Mace - 1861

    Tom 'The Fighting Sailor' King - 1862

    Joe Coburn - 1863

    Joe Wormald - 1865

    Jimmy Elliott - 1865

    Jem 'The Gypsy' Mace - 1866

    Mike 'The Deck Hand' McCoole - 1866

    Tom Allen - 1869

    Jem 'The Gypsy' Mace - 1870

    Tom Allen - 1873

    Charlie 'The Black Thunderbolt' Smith - 1876

    Joe Goss - 1876

    'Scalping' Morris Grant - 1878

    Paddy Ryan - 1880

    Charles 'Professor' Hadley - 1881

    John 'The Boston Strong Boy' L. Sullivan - 1882

    George 'Old Chocolate' Godfrey - 1883

    American Era

    'The Great' John L. Sullivan - 1885

    Peter 'The Great' Jackson - 1888

    'Gentleman Jim' James J. Corbett - 1892

    Peter Maher - 1895

    Bob 'The King of the Battle Royal' Armstrong - 1896

    'Ruby' Robert James Fitzsimmons - 1897

    Frank 'The Crafty Texan' Childs - 1898

    George Byers - 1898

    Klon***e - 1899

    James 'The Boilermaker' J. Jeffries - 1899

    Frank 'The Crafty Texan' Childs - 1899

    Frank 'The Crafty Texan' Childs - 1901

    Ed 'The Colorado Giant' Martin - 1902

    Jack 'The Unforgivable Blackness' Johnson - 1903

    Marvin 'The Louisville Plumber' Hart - 1905

    Noah Brusso a.k.a. Tommy 'The Little Giant of Hanover' Burns - 1906

    Jack 'The Unforgivable Blackness' Johnson - 1908

    Sam McVea - 1909

    Jeremiah "Joe" Jeannette - 1909

    Samuel 'Boston Bonecrusher' Langford - 1910

    Al Palzer - 1911

    Sam McVea - 1911

    Sam 'Boston Tar Baby' Langford - 1912

    Luther McCarty - 1913

    Arthur Pelkey - 1913

    Edward 'Gunboat' Smith - 1914

    Harry 'The Black Panther' Wills - 1914

    Georges 'The Orchid Man' Carpentier - 1914

    Sam 'Boston Terror' Langford - 1914

    Jess 'Pottawatomie Giant' Willard - 1915

    Harry 'The Black Panther' Wills - 1916

    Sam 'Greatest Fighter Nobody Knows' Langford - 1916

    'Big' Bill Tate - 1917

    Sam 'Boston' Langford - 1917

    Harry 'The Black Panther' Wills - 1918

    Jack 'The Manassa Mauler' Dempsey - 1919

    James Joseph Tunney a.k.a Gene 'The Fighting Marine' Tunney - 1926

    Feab Smith Williams a.k.a. George 'The Leiperville Shadow' Godfrey - 1926

    (Lawrence Samuel) 'Loopin'' Larry Gains - 1928

    Maximillian Adolph Otto Siegfried Schmeling 'Black Uhlan of the Rhine' - 1930

    Maximillian Adolph Otto Siegfried Schmeling 'Black Uhlan of the Rhine' - 1931

    Feab Smith Williams a.k.a. George 'The Leiperville Shadow' Godfrey - 1931

    Joseph Paul Zukauskas a.k.a Jack 'Sharkboy' Sharkey - 1932

    Primo Carnera - 1933

    'Bearcat' Obie Dia Walker - 1933

    Maximilian Adelbert Baer - 1934

    James J. (Walter) 'Pride of the Irish' Braddock - 1935

    Feab Smith Williams a.k.a. George 'The Leiperville Shadow' Godfrey - 1935

    'Loopin' Larry Gains - 1935

    Joseph 'The Brown Bomber' Louis Barrow - 1937

    Ezzard Mack Charles 'Cincinnati Cobra' - 1949

    Lee 'The Battling Bartender' Savold (Hulver) - 1950

    Ezzard Mack Charles 'Cincinnati Cobra' - 1950

    Ezzard Mack Charles 'Cincinnati Cobra' - 1951

    Arnold Raymond Cream a.k.a Jersey Joe Walcott - 1951

    Rocco Francis Marchegiano a.k.a Rocky 'The Brockton Blockbuster' Marciano - 1952

    Floyd 'The Gentleman of Boxing' Patterson - 1956

    Ingemar 'The Hammer of Tho' Johansson - 1959

    Floyd 'The Gentleman of Boxing' Patterson - 1960

    Charles L. 'Sonny' 'The Big Bear' Liston - 1962

    Cassius 'The Louisville Lip' Clay - 1964

    Muhammad 'The Greatest' Ali - 1964

    Ernie Terrell - 1965

    Muhammad 'The Greatest' Ali - 1967

    Smokin' Joe (William) Frazier - 1968

    Jimmy (Albert) Ellis - 1968

    Smokin' Joe (William) Frazier - 1970

    'Big' George (Edward) Foreman - 1973

    Muhammad 'The Greatest' Ali - 1974

    'Neon' Leon Spinks - 1978

    'Neon' Leon Spinks - 1978

    Ken 'The Jaw Breaker'(Howard) Norton - 1978

    Larry 'The Easton Assassin' Holmes - 1978

    Muhammad 'The Greatest' Ali - 1978

    'Big' John Tate - 1979

    Mike 'Hercules'(Dwayne) Weaver - 1980

    Michael (Marshall) 'Dynamite' Dokes (Doakes) - 1982

    Gerhardus 'Gerrie' 'The Bionic Hand' Christian Coetzee - 1983

    Larry 'The Easton Assassin' Holmes - 1983

    'Terrible' Tim Witherspoon - 1984

    'Pink' Pinklon Thomas - 1984

    Greg Page - 1984

    Tony 'TNT' Tubbs - 1985

    Michael 'Jinx' Spinks - 1985

    Trevor Berbick - 1985

    'Terrible' Tim Witherspoon - 1986

    'Iron' Mike Tyson - 1986

    James 'Bonecrusher' Smith - 1986

    'Iron' Mike Tyson - 1987

    Tony 'TNT' Tucker - 1987

    Mike Tyson - 1987

    Francesco Damiani - 1989

    James 'Buster' Douglas - 1990

    Evander 'The Real Dea' Holyfield - 1990

    Ray 'Merciless' Mercer - 1991

    Michael 'Double M' Moorer - 1992

    Rid**** 'Big Daddy' Bowe - 1992

    Rid**** 'Big Daddy' Bowe - 1992

    Lennox 'The Lion' Lewis - 1992

    Tommy 'The Duke' Morrison - 1993

    Michael Bentt - 1993

    Evander 'The Real Deal' Holyfield - 1993

    Herbert Okechukwu Maduagwu a.k.a. Herbie 'The Dancing Destroyer' Hide - 1994

    Michael 'Double M' Moorer - 1994

    Oliver 'The Atomic Bull' McCall - 1994

    'Big' George Foreman - 1994

    'Big' George Foreman - 1995

    Rid**** 'Big Daddy' Bowe - 1995

    Bruce 'The Atlantic City Express' Seldon - 1995

    Frank Bruno - 1995

    'Iron' Mike Tyson - 1996

    Michael 'Double M' Moorer - 1996

    Henry Adetokunboh Akinwande - 1996

    'Iron' Mike Tyson - 1996

    'Iron' Mike Tyson- 1996

    Evander 'The Real Deal' Holyfield - 1996

    Lennox 'The Lion' Lewis - 1997

    Herbert Okechukwu Maduagwu a.k.a. Herbie 'The Dancing Destroyer' Hide - 1997

    Evander 'The Real Deal' Holyfield - 1997

    Shannon "The Cannon" Briggs - 1997

    Vitali 'Dr. Ironfist' Klitschko - 2000

    Lennox 'The Lion' Lewis - 1999

    Chris 'Rapid Fire' Byrd - 2000

    Lennox 'The Lion' Lewis - 2000

    Evander 'The Real Deal' Holyfield - 2000

    Wladimir 'Dr. Steelhammer' Klitschko - 2000

    John 'The Quietman' Ruiz - 2001

    Hasim 'The Rock' Rahman - 2001

    Lennox 'The Lion' Lewis - 2001

    Lennox 'The Lion'Lewis - 2002

    Chris 'Rapid Fire' Byrd - 2002

    Roy 'Captain Hook' Jones, Jr. - 2003

    Corrie 'The Sniper' Sanders - 2003

    John 'The Quietman' Ruiz - 2004

    Lamon 'Relentless' Brewster - 2004

    Vitali 'Dr.Ironfist' Klitschko - 2004

    Hasim 'The Rock' Rahman - 2005

    Nikolai 'Beast from the East' Valuev - 2005

    Siarhei 'The White Wolf' Liakhovich - 2006

    Wladimir 'Dr.Steelhammer' Klitschko - 2006

    Oleg 'The Big O' Maskaev - 2006

    Shannon 'The Cannon' Briggs - 2006

    Ruslan 'The White Tyson' Chagaev - 2007

    Sultan(-Ahmed Magomedsalihovich) Ibragimov - 2007

    Wladimir 'Dr.Steelhammer' Klitschko - 2008

    Samuel Okon Peter - 2008

    Nikolai 'Beast from the East' Valuev - 2008

    Vitali 'Dr.Ironfist' Klitschko - 2008

    David 'The Hayemaker' Haye - 2009

    Wladimir 'Dr.Steelhammer' Klitschko - 2011

    Alexander 'Sasha' Povetkin - 2011

    Bermane 'B.Ware' Stiverne - 2014

    Ruslan 'White Tyson' Chagaev - 2014

    Deontay 'The Bronze Bomber' Wilder - 2015

    Tyson 'The Gypsy King' Fury - 2015

    'Prince' Charles Martin - 2016

    Lucas 'Big Daddy' Browne - 2016

    Anthony 'AJ' Oluwafemi Olaseni Joshua - 2016

    Ruslan 'White Tyson' Chagaev - 2016

    Joseph (Dennis) Parker - 2016

    Anthony 'AJ' Oluwafemi Olaseni Joshua - 2017

    (Mahmoud Omeirat) Manuel 'Diamond Boy' Charr - 2017

    Anthony 'AJ' Oluwafemi Olaseni Joshua - 2018

    (Andrés Ponce) Andy " The Destroyer" Ruiz Jr. - 2019

    Anthony 'AJ' Oluwafemi Olaseni Joshua - 2019

    Tyson 'The Gypsy King' Fury - 2020



    And there you have it. A complete list of champions. More complete than CBZ, IBRO, Boxrec, TBRB, or any other organization you want to bring into it.

    What you are meant to do is take the names and dates you don't know and learn about them. That's all you need is a name and a date.


    I don't point out lineals or coloreds or anything like that because this is my personal research resource I made for to help me remember timing and ****. I don't need lineals denoted so they are not, I don't need Sam Langford to say colored by it to know he was a colored champion. I don't feel like I should add any of that for a public version of the list either. Because you lot are meant to look into it yourselves.

    With Lineal specifically, y'all argue every GD damn what lineal is. Give me your criteria and I can help you with who fits it. Have me list for you who I say is lineal plenty of y'all would argue rather than see the list for it's worth; a research material not an authority.

    I'd rather be asked who is lineal in the list than tell, because if you ask me I can start by you clearing up your definition of lineal.

    The only reason I post this list is to share the resource. It helps me, it can help some of youse too.


    It's not meant to be the end of your research. It's meant to be the beginning
    Last edited by Marchegiano; 05-12-2020, 01:17 PM.
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    #2
    Why isn't Briggs' lineal reign from when he beat Foreman listed?

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      #3
      Originally posted by famicommander
      Why isn't Briggs' lineal reign from when he beat Foreman listed?
      First, thanks, tell me if you spot more.


      The short answer is overlooking/ignorance with a dash of laziness


      You can read the rest of this post if you're interested how I got here, but, yeah, in short, lazy/****** like most mistakes.



      I cobbled this list together by taking from the respected source per eras. So, bare knuckle, that's all CBZ/IBRO, it wasn't hard to combine their efforts into one complete BK list. Ancient? Church records and Olympic foundations for a complete Olympians list.


      From there, with those names and dates I learned new names and dates.

      True for every era, except, there is an arrogance that come with your own era isn't there? At least for me.

      As you get into the contemporary end of my list, that's mostly Wiki. Just lazy copy and paste work.

      Because, I felt like I knew it, honestly. I felt like I knew Lennox Lewis, for example, because I'm like 13 when he's, you know, the Lennox Lewis, and I remember being 13 just fine.

      It's only recently I've been picking up I don't know those guys like I know guys I've researched. I know them on kind of a casual level....because I was like 13 when they were active and have not done any real research into them since.

      I've watched, but not learned if that makes sense.

      I think we all start watching present boxing and work our ways backward from there, but, research I started with early boxing and worked my way forward.

      I'm not knowledgeable enough, actually, to speak to Briggs and Old Foreman like I can Marciano, Dempsey, Johnson, Ali, Young Foreman, or anyone else who came before my time.

      So you caught me just in the middle of doing research into eras that just passed not even a full lifetime ago.

      I'm pretty sure I learned about Briggs-Foreman for the lineal within a year from now. QueensberryRules mentioned it quite a few months ago, but certainly not a full year ago. I've not updated the list in years though. I mean, yeah, Ruiz is there but that takes seconds and I did it when I posted this. I mean my list on my PC has not been worked on in about two years. I didn't take that info Queenie gave me and add it 'cause I been a lazy ****.

      I have a Lewis vs WBA thread in History right now because I am currently looking for perspective from guys a bit older who were more mature when it happened.

      Just got me at a good time really, I don't usually update my list until I'm comfortable with an era, late 80s-early 2000s I'm doing currently.

      So, like I said, I overlooked the entire era for years, arrogantly believing I was beyond research because of having lived it, then after I did learn of Briggs-Foreman and stuff like that I just haven't gone through and found the exact years and added them in.

      Like I said in the first post, it's not meant to be everything, not yet anyway, it's meant to be a good start for anyone wanting to learn more about any particular era.

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