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  • #21
    That marshmallow chin comment don't make sense🙄 you can't crack or smash a marshmallow! Glass I believe🍸

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Squared.Circle View Post
      You mean, like that time when team AJ requested several consecutive extensions on the WBA deadline to try and sort things out with team Wilder, who were taking several days at a time to respond (Finkle: "We’ll get back to Hearn with our comments on Friday")? You know, that time when team Wilder said they refused to sign the contract because it had no rematch clause in the event of a draw and no date or venue, then go and sign a contract with Fury for less money, no additional titles, no rematch clause in the event of a draw and no date or venue?

      You can’t pay step aside money when there’s nobody there to step aside for. Quack quack.
      you’re obviously omitting the fact that Hearn also took his time to reply to Finkel, lost his pen and sent a contract without a two way rematch clause after he (Hearn) agreed to it in the offer. Bottom line if AJ really wanted the fight Hearn would’ve paid Povetkin step aside money so their wouldn’t be any pressure from fake deadline by the WBA.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by 1hourRun View Post
        I'm pretty sure BTSPORTS ruled Tyson KO in 12th round in Wilder-Fury I, and later shorty before the rematch Tyson confessed that indeed Deontay 'Bronze-Bomber' Wilder had sparked him out cold on the second fall.

        Then Tyson had to change tactics before he got KO again in the rematch, such a dirty fighter he was that Kenny Bayless had to deduct a point, but in truth Bayless should of DQ Tyson.



        Moving on, look at this clip of Chicken-Run Slim-Jay, this is outer failure. How can anyone say that this scary-wimp is the HW champion of the world?
        You don't know what you're looking at. That there is the new style of fighting. Reverse aggression. If you can't out gun em, out run em.

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        • #24
          On the safe side Say the aj fury purse is 80m 40m each i dont see why they cant do it 32.5m a piece the winner getting wilder. An immediate rematch. Wilder takes 11m pulev 4. Itd give wilder 8 figures not to fight immediatly and wilder can work on getting better jab as wwa p on uppercut some combinations take A low risk fight too.boost payday work on new moves and boost confidence fight like a hughie fury to also try add attemtion back towards a tyson fury wilder match. Plus decent probably 4m.payday in the uk. Face it only decent payday for wilder wo a belt would be whyte maybe usyk or hughie fury in the uk(simply because connection to tyson) 5m wilder 2.5 hughie in uk. 6m wilder 4m whyte. 5m each wilder vs usyk. Other than that and a big money fights vs aj or fury

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Cool Scant View Post
            you’re obviously omitting the fact that Hearn also took his time to reply to Finkel, lost his pen and sent a contract without a two way rematch clause after he (Hearn) agreed to it in the offer. Bottom line if AJ really wanted the fight Hearn would’ve paid Povetkin step aside money so their wouldn’t be any pressure from fake deadline by the WBA.
            And you’re obviously omitting the fact that two contracts were sent out; first one had a one way rematch clause, they said they wanted a two way rematch clause, rightly so. A new contract was sent, to which Finkle says “I’ll get back to Hearn with my comments on Friday.” Which is when the WBA said jog on, you have 24 hours to send a signed contract with either Povetkin or Wilder (don’t quote Finkle saying “we didn’t know. If Hearn would have told us there was a 24 hour deadline we would have responded immediately.” The WBA issued their deadline in an open letter, Finkle knew).What was Finkle’s excuse for not signing the second one? Apparently, among “many impediments”, no rematch clause in the event of a draw and no date or venue, the only two reasons he’s given in several interviews. As for Hearn apparently taking his time replying...that’s a new one. Finkle’s response to being called a time waster was something along the lines of “Hearn said I’d take a week to reply because he’d send the contract early Sunday morning and I wouldn’t see it until late Monday evening”...and then...in his own words...wouldn’t reply until later in the week.

            Again, they’re not going to fork out tens of thousands in step aside money when the other side is taking the píss and looking like they’re not going to sign. You offer step aside money when you already have a preliminary deal in place, not to allow for another several weeks of drawn out “negotiations” (restricted to email only, on Finkle’s demand).

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Squared.Circle View Post
              And you’re obviously omitting the fact that two contracts were sent out; first one had a one way rematch clause, they said they wanted a two way rematch clause, rightly so. A new contract was sent, to which Finkle says “I’ll get back to Hearn with my comments on Friday.” Which is when the WBA said jog on, you have 24 hours to send a signed contract with either Povetkin or Wilder (don’t quote Finkle saying “we didn’t know. If Hearn would have told us there was a 24 hour deadline we would have responded immediately.” The WBA issued their deadline in an open letter, Finkle knew).What was Finkle’s excuse for not signing the second one? Apparently, among “many impediments”, no rematch clause in the event of a draw and no date or venue, the only two reasons he’s given in several interviews. As for Hearn apparently taking his time replying...that’s a new one. Finkle’s response to being called a time waster was something along the lines of “Hearn said I’d take a week to reply because he’d send the contract early Sunday morning and I wouldn’t see it until late Monday evening”...and then...in his own words...wouldn’t reply until later in the week.

              Again, they’re not going to fork out tens of thousands in step aside money when the other side is taking the píss and looking like they’re not going to sign. You offer step aside money when you already have a preliminary deal in place, not to allow for another several weeks of drawn out “negotiations” (restricted to email only, on Finkle’s demand).
              stop the BS And UK propaganda the WBA never told a Finkel that he had 24 hours to sign the contract. The WBA called the Povetkin mandatory 12 hours after Finkel told Hearn he’d get the contract back in a week. If Hearn would’ve told Finkel he had 12 hours to sign the contract most like if it was the offered discussed it would’ve been sign. If Hearn would’ve sent a contract with the offer originally accepted it would’ve been sign. Hearn was trying to be a weasel and sending a contract that was different to the offer that was agreed to but you ultra nationalists never called him out on it.

              My original point is if Hearn would’ve paid Povetkin step aside money all parties wouldn’t have to worry about the Povetkin mandatory being called.

              Bottom line is Hearn AJ and his fans didn’t know what step aside money meant in regards to Povetkin because you all didn’t want the wilder fight at that time.

              AJ and Barry Hearn both said they Didn’t want the wilder fight. What more do you need?

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Cool Scant View Post
                stop the BS And UK propaganda the WBA never told a Finkel that he had 24 hours to sign the contract. The WBA called the Povetkin mandatory 12 hours after Finkel told Hearn he’d get the contract back in a week. If Hearn would’ve told Finkel he had 12 hours to sign the contract most like if it was the offered discussed it would’ve been sign. If Hearn would’ve sent a contract with the offer originally accepted it would’ve been sign. Hearn was trying to be a weasel and sending a contract that was different to the offer that was agreed to but you ultra nationalists never called him out on it.

                My original point is if Hearn would’ve paid Povetkin step aside money all parties wouldn’t have to worry about the Povetkin mandatory being called.

                Bottom line is Hearn AJ and his fans didn’t know what step aside money meant in regards to Povetkin because you all didn’t want the wilder fight at that time.

                AJ and Barry Hearn both said they Didn’t want the wilder fight. What more do you need?
                The WBA ordered AJ to fight Povetkin in April, they gave the 24 hour deadline in late June, after Hearn had received multiple extensions. The order in April, and the ultimatum in late June were in open letters published on their website and subsequently picked up and published by multiple media sources within an hour...Finkle knew...try again.

                Regardless, why would he tell Finkle when a.) he already knew and b.) the guy was taking days at a time to respond with “comments”, refusing to speak on the phone, had refused, agreed then cancelled face to face meetings and restricted all communication to email? What about any of that gives the impression they would accept? Why would they send an email to Finkle who has proven he doesn’t want to enter actual negotiations when he can simply get on the phone to Povetkin’s handlers and have it sorted within a few hours? Are all you Wildettes completely devoid of all logical though? Lol

                Firstly, your original point is as dim as your hero. You do not offer step aside money in the hopes that another party will sign a contract. That is literally not how step aside money works. Secondly, WBA regulations state a unification takes precedence over a mandatory, hence the WBA allowing extensions in the hopes of a unification. So your entire point is not only dim, but factually irrelevant.

                When did the Hearn’s say they didn’t want a fight? Stop listening to racist LDBC channels and show me a direct quote or video where they explicitly state “we don’t want that fight”. Conversely...I can give you a direct quote where Wilder himself has said he doesn’t want the fight to happen. “I’ll freeze AJ out of the division.”...if that doesn’t mean he doesn’t want that fight to happen then the sky is yellow and your mum is a goat. On top of that, after team Wilder ducked out of the $100m offer with the hilarious excuse of “they wouldn’t tell us what AJ was making :*(“...Finkle is on video saying “we must be doing something right” in response to a question regarding the difference between $15m to $100m...if you can’t see that as them intentionally stalling to get more and more money...then my goodness...you’re literally as smart as Wilder himself.

                Behave and sit down. Stop being jealous that the UK run the heavyweight division, something which the US hasn’t achieved for the last 30 odd years.

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                • #28
                  This man called Bob personifies contradiction. Was he not the same person calling advicing Joshua to pay step aside money to Usyk while he waits for Fury?

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                  • #29
                    I doubt Pulev and Uysk would step aside, Joshua is too vulnerable.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Squared.Circle View Post
                      The WBA ordered AJ to fight Povetkin in April, they gave the 24 hour deadline in late June, after Hearn had received multiple extensions. The order in April, and the ultimatum in late June were in open letters published on their website and subsequently picked up and published by multiple media sources within an hour...Finkle knew...try again.

                      Regardless, why would he tell Finkle when a.) he already knew and b.) the guy was taking days at a time to respond with “comments”, refusing to speak on the phone, had refused, agreed then cancelled face to face meetings and restricted all communication to email? What about any of that gives the impression they would accept? Why would they send an email to Finkle who has proven he doesn’t want to enter actual negotiations when he can simply get on the phone to Povetkin’s handlers and have it sorted within a few hours? Are all you Wildettes completely devoid of all logical though? Lol

                      Firstly, your original point is as dim as your hero. You do not offer step aside money in the hopes that another party will sign a contract. That is literally not how step aside money works. Secondly, WBA regulations state a unification takes precedence over a mandatory, hence the WBA allowing extensions in the hopes of a unification. So your entire point is not only dim, but factually irrelevant.

                      When did the Hearn’s say they didn’t want a fight? Stop listening to racist LDBC channels and show me a direct quote or video where they explicitly state “we don’t want that fight”. Conversely...I can give you a direct quote where Wilder himself has said he doesn’t want the fight to happen. “I’ll freeze AJ out of the division.”...if that doesn’t mean he doesn’t want that fight to happen then the sky is yellow and your mum is a goat. On top of that, after team Wilder ducked out of the $100m offer with the hilarious excuse of “they wouldn’t tell us what AJ was making :*(“...Finkle is on video saying “we must be doing something right” in response to a question regarding the difference between $15m to $100m...if you can’t see that as them intentionally stalling to get more and more money...then my goodness...you’re literally as smart as Wilder himself.

                      Behave and sit down. Stop being jealous that the UK run the heavyweight division, something which the US hasn’t achieved for the last 30 odd years.
                      I didn’t know that IFL tv was a racist LDBC channel. Or AJ would do an with Nelson if he was apart of the racist LDBC. I got links to prove anything I’m saying from UK media. You can’t provide a link that the WBA wrote an open letter with a 24 hour deadline after Finkel received the revised contract, because it’s a lie!
                      And trust me sweetheart no one is jealous of the UK. Regarding this Failed wilder v Joshua negotiations, I knew most of you blokes have an inferiority complex concerning Americans. It doesn’t matter what you little island achieves in the sport... you’ll still be treated as America’s little brother.

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