Comments Thread For: Andrade: I Looked Forward To Fighting Golovkin At One Point; Not Anymore

[Doubledagger]

who was willing to fight andrade that he should've fought? Who has he turned down? Canelo could've fought him and declined. And Yeah, the same Saunders Canelo was about to fight this month, except Saunders was more highly regarded back then after his schooling of lemieux than he is now, since he hasn't done anything since then.

These are the people that Andrade avoided throughout his career.

Erislandy Lara (3 times avoided)

Jermell Charlo (2 times avoided)

Derevyanchenko (1 time avoided).

And these are the people that avoided him.

1) Canelo Alvarez (too many times to count)

2) GGG (at least two times)

3) Jermall Charlo (at least two times)

4) Saunders (one time).


So as you can see, he has just done just as much avoiding as he has had done to him.

I like to believe in causal effect, I don't believe in coincidence.

I think Andrade is suffering now because of the notorious ducking he did earlier in his career. The ducking of Lara, Charlo (154), and Derevyanchenko is what is causing him to be ducked now.

If he had taken those fights when they were offered, assuming he won said fights, no one would be ducking him because despite how dangerous and tricky he is, he would be a household name and people would fight him just for the status and money they would get by fighting him. Promoters would be lining up to sign him and match him against their fighters.

The funny thing is that he would have actually beaten Jermell back then. Back then Jermell fought in a slick defensive style as opposed to his now explosive offensive style. He fought in a style that Andrade is better at fighting, and the chances of him being hurt or knocked out back then would have been very low.

The second time he ducked Jermell Jermell had already left Ronnie Shields and was fighting under Derick James, he had adopted the explosive offensive style he uses now, so the likelihood of Andrade being hurt and KO'd would have been higher.

I think he ducked Lara for the same reason Canelo, Jermall, Saunders, and GGG are ducking him. Nobody wants to fight against a fast, slick, and tricky southpaw, even other southpaws.

However these same guys would have taken the risk if Andrade had built up his clout by taking those Lara, Jermell, and Derevyanchenko fights.

[TheWinners]

I've watched Andrade. There's no reason to believe anyone would pay to see him fight anyone. Does nothing spectacular in the ring.

[H.B.Viper]

Last time we checked, the WBC told trips to fight Charlo for the right to fight alvarez, it was trips, & his promoter who turned it down.
Don't go there.
Alvarez still refuses to fight the twins(but he fought guys like Khan).
Don't go there either.
A duck, is a duck.
Those 2 are looking for weak, spent, or laughable ranked mandatory bums to fight at this stage.
If I were them. I stay away from the twins as well.

[GhostofDempsey]

First of all, Canelo and GGG don't fight on ppv anyway, so what do ppv numbers have to do with anything?

Secondly, did you just say that Charlo avoided GGG? Lol, do you live in an alternate reality where we say the opposite of what actually happened?

Name Charlo's best opponent. He has made no effort at two weight classes to fight the best. Now he's talking about moving up to 168 to fight some other no-hoper. Don't embarrass yourself defending Charlo.

[DreamFighter]

If GGG's going to take a loss by facing someone good again, then he wants to be well paid for it.

[FLY TY]

Can you imagine wasting $50,000,000 and all you got was Rolls, Sergiy, and Simon says??? That 50%???

Sergey good but has never won a major belt. All three maybe should of cost 12 million total.

Exactly. But the narrative is PBC fighters are overpaid.

[Doubledagger]

Name Charlo's best opponent. He has made no effort at two weight classes to fight the best. Now he's talking about moving up to 168 to fight some other no-hoper. Don't embarrass yourself defending Charlo.

Unfortunately your attempt at deflection ain't gonna work on me.

You said that Charlo avoided GGG, and I asked you is this an alternate reality where we say the opposite of what happened actually happened?

Well, is it? Because last time I checked, GGG was ordered by the wbc to fight Charlo as a mandatory eliminator for the wbc crown, and GGG pulled away.

Last time I checked, Charlo moved up and campaigned straight for the wbc mandatory position, of which GGG was champion at the time. And when Charlo did that, before the fight was even ordered, GGG and co ran straight to the media to cry about Charlo about how Charlo hadn't done nothing to deserve a GGG fight and how GGG didn't have to fight him.

All of a sudden, mandatories became unimportant when dangerous opponents became the mandatories.

So again I ask you, do you live in an alternate reality where we say the opposite of what actually happened?

[GhostofDempsey]

Unfortunately your attempt at deflection ain't gonna work on me.

You said that Charlo avoided GGG, and I asked you is this an alternate reality where we say the opposite of what happened actually happened?

Well, is it? Because last time I checked, GGG was ordered by the wbc to fight Charlo as a mandatory eliminator for the wbc crown, and GGG pulled away.

Last time I checked, Charlo moved up and campaigned straight for the wbc mandatory position, of which GGG was champion at the time. And when Charlo did that, before the fight was even ordered, GGG and co ran straight to the media to cry about Charlo about how Charlo hadn't done nothing to deserve a GGG fight and how GGG didn't have to fight him.

All of a sudden, mandatories became unimportant when dangerous opponents became the mandatories.

So again I ask you, do you live in an alternate reality where we say the opposite of what actually happened?

Charlo is all talk, much like yourself. He turned down $12M for Canelo, and back in Oct 2018 he felt it was unfair that The WBC said he had to fight GGG in an eliminator for a shot at Canelo. Canelo talks big but when it’s time to put pen to paper he is a coward.

Show me who has the deeper resume and I’ll show you who is really ducking. Charlo at his second weight class now and has fought no one! Avoided Canelo at 154 and 160, turned down a pay day that was 10x higher than his biggest to date. Now talking about moving to 168 to fight another weak link of the division. Pathetic.

[Doubledagger]

Charlo is all talk, much like yourself. He turned down $12M for Canelo, and back in Oct 2018 he felt it was unfair that The WBC said he had to fight GGG in an eliminator for a shot at Canelo. Canelo talks big but when it’s time to put pen to paper he is a coward.

Show me who has the deeper resume and I’ll show you who is really ducking. Charlo at his second weight class now and has fought no one! Avoided Canelo at 154 and 160, turned down a pay day that was 10x higher than his biggest to date. Now talking about moving to 168 to fight another weak link of the division. Pathetic.

I'll ask you again. Is this in alternate reality that you livd in where we say the opposite of what actually happened?

Lol, Charlo crying about being ordered to fight GGG.

Dude you just validate my question with every single post you make, lol, you must be confused or something.

It was GGG, not Charlo who cried about being ordered to fight an eliminator. He wanted an immediate title shot instead of working his way back, the entitled bastard.

Finally, actions speak louder than words anyway, not only did GGG cry about it, he absolutely refused to fight the eliminator and started a new motto "belts don't matter, belts don't mean anything. I don't need belts"

Lol, can't even make this shieet up! The guy who used to shout it out to anyone who would listen that it was "all about the belts" when he was being asked about Ward and Lara calling him out, now when he is ordered to fight Charlo, he vacated the eliminator position and starts saying that belts don't matter.

All of sudden, belts and mandatories didn't matter anymore.

It was GGG who walked away from the eliminator, not the other way around buddy. Both his actions and his words support this. Charlo didn't go nowhere, he kept his mandatory position.

Canelo vacated the belt to avoid his mandatory, GGG vacated the eliminator that was gonna earn him that mandatory.

Charlo didn't go nowhere.

If Charlo had been the one doing the ducking, he is the one that would have been forced to walk away, not Canelo, not GGG.

Waiting for your next statement that is the complete opposite of what happened now, lol, smh!