Boxing has TRADITIONAL Black and Latin American fans, UFC doesn’t

[Thuglife Nelo]

If you want the reality of combat sports or at least how it is in the USA..

The reason why boxing is culturally unique is because of its tradition of cultural backing. Mexican, Puerto Rican, Black fighters have carried the sport to its latest generation. This is a specific following that UFC can’t match, no matter what theory there is with the curiosity of it “taking over.”

Cage fighting seems a bit too primitive to boxing purists as they aren’t interested in the dynamics of MMA.

It’s safe to say that UFC caters more to WWE and MLB fans. Even so, with any major All-American mainstream sport those fans are significantly huge in numbers. Which means that UFC isn’t really that big or interesting tbh. Without ESPN pushing Rousey or McGregor it’s a hard sport to push. It just doesn’t have the roots like boxing.

Boxing is too iconic. UFC is plastic. UFC was founded specifically on anabolic roid use the way WWE carried it’s protocols. It got out of hand that the federal government put a sanction that it needed USADA or no go... by force.

[TMLT87]

More black and hispanic fans have started watching MMA in the last 10 years. Its a pretty mixed audience now. I dont see why having "minority" fans really matters anyway. And thats only really an American thing anyhow. I dont think theres any real demographic split anywhere else.

As a fan of both sports I find the arguments pretty dumb honestly. MMA fans with their dismissive "boxing is dead" BS and boxing fans with their snobbery and "muh history and tradition" BS. Both of them are doing fine, neither is going anywhere. UFC hasnt really "overtaken" boxing and it wont, but it did make itself an equal (in America anyway) roughly a decade ago. Its already peaked in popularity years ago now though. These days it just comes down to which sport is putting out the big fights at that moment.

Without ESPN pushing Rousey or McGregor it’s a hard sport to push.

The UFC has been a big deal since the late 00s, long before any of the things you mentioned. It was blowing up putting out million buy PPVs while the mainstream networks and sports media were still scared to touch it.

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Now if my trend doesn’t get shutdown then somebody on here is out to get me or boxingscene is being bias. All my race related trends get shutdown. But I do say a lot more Hispanics definitely South Americans ( Latinos and Brazilians ) watch mma. Blacks are coming along slowly but surely .

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More black and hispanic fans have started watching MMA in the last 10 years. Its a pretty mixed audience now. I dont see why having "minority" fans really matters anyway. And thats only really an American thing anyhow. I dont think theres any real demographic split anywhere else.

As a fan of both sports I find the arguments pretty dumb honestly. MMA fans with their dismissive "boxing is dead" BS and boxing fans with their snobbery and "muh history and tradition" BS. Both of them are doing fine, neither is going anywhere. UFC hasnt really "overtaken" boxing and it wont, but it did make itself an equal (in America anyway) roughly a decade ago. Its already peaked in popularity years ago now though. These days it just comes down to which sport is putting out the big fights at that moment.



The UFC has been a big deal since the late 00s, long before any of the things you mentioned. It was blowing up putting out million buy PPVs while the mainstream networks and sports media were still scared to touch it.

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UFC fight night at bars is no joke. Places be packed.

I remember it was a huge line for that kahbib vs McGregor 2. Black , white , Hispanic , Indian etc etc. all different nationalities crammed inside Buffalo Wild Wings. The only person in boxing that can do that is Floyd. And maybe Canelo and Manny.

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Now if boxing gets a Great White Hope now look out! And you know I ain’t lying. An all American white heavyweight ? That’s one reason why UFC was big at first white boys were getting grassed in boxing.

[TMLT87]

That’s one reason why UFC was big at first white boys were getting grassed in boxing.

Thats definitely part of it. I think the decline of American HW boxing in general (blacks, whites, whatever) played a part too. We did see elite white guys come along in HW boxing after 2000 but ironically it actually caused HW boxing to decline in popularity in the US rather than increase, because those white guys were Eastern Euros. Meanwhile the UFC had guys like Brock lol.

[Boxfan83]

Now if my trend doesn’t get shutdown then somebody on here is out to get me or boxingscene is being bias. All my race related trends get shutdown. But I do say a lot more Hispanics definitely South Americans ( Latinos and Brazilians ) watch mma. Blacks are coming along slowly but surely .

Depends on which mods are checking, you have the self righteous prudes & the 1s thatll take down your thread if it doesnt follow their agenda.

[Thuglife Nelo]

More black and hispanic fans have started watching MMA in the last 10 years. Its a pretty mixed audience now.

I would agree too. I would even say I’ve seen more Hispanic fighters on MMA platforms too. However, it seems like a LONG TIME from now for that to surface. It just doesn’t have the grind from the underground perspective. I think the theory is that there’s too much to learn from each individual combat world. That dynamic could be positive or negative and subjective, but boxing is a much harder and brutal sport. I’ve been in gyms and I’ve done MMA myself. I even challenged those same BJj guys to sparring/boxing and I out work them. I even do light work... something about the power and fluidity in boxing imo.

[Thuglife Nelo]

Now if boxing gets a Great White Hope now look out! And you know I ain’t lying. An all American white heavyweight ? That’s one reason why UFC was big at first white boys were getting grassed in boxing.

There’s a paradox with this misconception. This isn’t about being pro culturalism or ethnicity, just stating facts about cultures have survived the generations.

The reason why UFC does well is because they are essentially filler entertainment combat sports that is ideal for bars. Fast, MMA, more primitive if you will. So whatever is more commercial on a tv network it will do well with general entertainment. I would say boxing isnt in the field of mainstream commercialism. Most ruralites, suburbs, all gravitate to MMA more than boxing because it’s similar to street fighting, or at least it is to the new gen.

WWE always sold crazy PPV’s and it’s fake.

Boxing wouldn’t need to worry about such standards.

[TMLT87]

I would agree too. I would even say I’ve seen more Hispanic fighters on MMA platforms too. However, it seems like a LONG TIME from now for that to surface. It just doesn’t have the grind from the underground perspective. I think the theory is that there’s too much to learn from each individual combat world. That dynamic could be positive or negative and subjective, but boxing is a much harder and brutal sport. I’ve been in gyms and I’ve done MMA myself. I even challenged those same BJj guys to sparring/boxing and I out work them. I even do light work... something about the power and fluidity in boxing imo.

Boxing is definitely harder to excel in because of the talent pool being much bigger, plus you have to have way more fights to establish yourself as a top guy, and a few losses can badly hurt your career whereas its the norm in MMA to lose some.

What do you mean by BJJ guys? even in the MMA world the more pure BJJ focused fighters have the stereotype of being less athletic, theres kind of a nerdy hipster aura around BJJ. Different MMA fighters come from different backgrounds and specialize in different things though. Theres some dangerous MMA strikers out there - guys like Adesanya, Aldo, Ngannou, Conor etc.