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  • #11
    Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez View Post
    Yes! I agree with you. People on here sometimes say to me : "How can you know anything when you aren't a boxer yourself??". Then I'm like "Have you seen what boxers themselves say???" Most of them know nothing about the sport - other than what they do themselves in the ring.

    Dubois has beaten literally no-one in his career and now he is going to beat a guy who knocked almost every one of 45 opponents out. Normally I would slate Wilder's record but it full of *way* better opponents than Dubois' record. Wilder is fast and he lands those right hands in every fight - including both Fury fights.

    Exactly my point I wont take anything away from Dubois he has alot of promise in the future from what we've seen but that's very little at best. Wallin has faced a better competitor in Fury and we still know NOTHING about him. How could anybody in their right mind say since Dubois beat Gorman he is ready for the best of the best in the division. That being Wilder or Fury or Joshua either one.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Oldskoolg View Post
      Quite right old boy quite right. Sometimes my countrymen embarrass me with stuff like this. It’s collective psychosis. The fight isn’t happening, wilder hasn’t spoken about it, PBC hasn’t spoken about it, there is no reward fo wilder, wilder is fighting fury for the trilogy, it just goes to show you how business is done in boxing in Britain. Both Lucifer Hearn and Fisheyes use the exact same tactics to try and lure fighters from other promotions instead of making fights in house
      The politics of boxing are INSANE! Story's like this get out and then the no brainers of the world read it and will take it for gospel truth. Even when it literally makes no sense in a real world application.

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      • #13
        This is exactly why the Brits make themselves targets for blowback.

        Wilder happened to lose to the best heavyweight on the planet. But how do you jump from that to now demoting him to fighting a green guy like Daniel Dubois? And worse yet getting knocked out by him?

        I can understand Frank Warren pushing this ******ity. He's a promoter and they get paid to shovel bullshit.

        But the British boxing establishment has to jump in with both feet too???

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        • #14
          "Inexperienced he might be for now, but once past Joyce few will be able to argue that Dubois doesn’t belong with the Heavyweight division’s elite."

          Once past Joyce? That fight is no foregone conclusion by any means. It seems to me people are underestimating Joyce.

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          • #15
            Dubious has never fought anyone more dangerous than a heavy bag.

            Just another UK hype job shouting about a fight he knows will not, and can not happen.
            Got no time for these frauds who have no intention on following through. Just another ***** Whyte coward who we all know will only fight the weakest nobodies he can find.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez View Post
              Yes! I agree with you. People on here sometimes say to me : "How can you know anything when you aren't a boxer yourself??". Then I'm like "Have you seen what boxers themselves say???" Most of them know nothing about the sport - other than what they do themselves in the ring.

              Dubois has beaten literally no-one in his career and now he is going to beat a guy who knocked almost every one of 45 opponents out. Normally I would slate Wilder's record but it full of *way* better opponents than Dubois' record. Wilder is fast and he lands those right hands in every fight - including both Fury fights.
              How can you slate any fighter who has under 15 fights ? Wilder was saved by the bell in his 13th fight and has improved very little to what most champs do, DDD is an explosive big unit that Wilder has not fought yet because that’s a true power puncher improving so you can’t really say it’s not competitive to the point he’s still a top Wilder win .otherwise your lying or your not in the know .

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              • #17
                This is the bit where I come in and say, put the kid dynamite/juggernaut winner in with, wait for it...

                Lupesoleai Joseph OILSKIIiiiiiiiiN Parrrrrkerrrrr!!!

                A loss to Parker will show where both those guys are at as much as a loss by Parker will show where he's at.

                And now, back to your regularly scheduled broadcast...

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                • #18
                  I would imagine if Dubois is smart... he's concentrating on only Joyce right now. Because Joyce is a tricky and talented fighter. He is a bit slow, but Dubois is certainly no speed king. I would say in a year Wilder may take on either of those two as his comeback fight after Fury embarrasses him again. Just a guess.

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                  • #19
                    All this is, is click bait for attention and views just like Joshua claiming he wanted to fight wilder.

                    Can Dubois win? Sure, anyone has a chance in a fight that's in the ring. It's unlikely. They act like wilder is garbage just because he lost to a guy who is considered the best right now in Fury. It's not like he lost to a fill in like Ruiz.

                    Regardless if Wilders technique isn't what is considered good. Foreman was a horrible boxer. All foreman did was swing away and had little to no defense. Now he's considered an all time great. Sure he beat Frazier, Norton and other top guys of his era, and that's what wilder needs to do to cement his legacy. It's not the end of the world just because he lost to Fury but he needs to come back and beat guys like Whyte, Joshua, Parker and so forth.

                    Dubois would get lit up by Wilder. Wilders had over 40 fights and set's traps for the knockout and dubois is too inexperienced not to fall for the right hand. He's not Fury.

                    This self distancing/isolation/lockdown is making people talk abnormally because they are all pinned up. The boredom is real. We got old fighters claiming they want to make a come back even if it is for charity it's still nonsense that would have never happened if it wasn't for covid19.

                    Just worry about Joyce and other mid tier fighters before getting smoked.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post
                      How can you slate any fighter who has under 15 fights ? Wilder was saved by the bell in his 13th fight and has improved very little to what most champs do, DDD is an explosive big unit that Wilder has not fought yet because that’s a true power puncher improving so you can’t really say it’s not competitive to the point he’s still a top Wilder win .otherwise your lying or your not in the know .
                      You're a smart guy - almost every guy who has had 15 fights is undefeated. Dubois also has the disadvantage of being a frank Warren guy - so he hasn't been tested. Also trust me - this makes him look twice as good as he actually is.

                      Dubois fighting Wilder would be the dumbest move he ever makes. This is just another Anthony Yarde against Kovalaev. Least he will finally learn something if he loses - that he needs a new promoter who can step him up in the right way.

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